<p>seems like in this case people don’t see the need unless it has actually happened to them, which is true in almost all cases (charities, donations, disease fundraisers, etc.)</p>
<p>If UCstudent is really intent on setting up a lawsuit (i’m sure he/she would gather enough supporters) then I think the best thing to do, since obviously no one wants berkeley to go bankrupt, is to find out precisely how students should be compensated for their stress. </p>
<p>@Firapara: “The university provides a great value education and I wouldn’t want to strain it fiscally because I speculate Identity theft could happen to me.”
I’m sure you would feel differently if it actually happened to you, am i right?</p>
<p>Agreed. By not doing anything, we’re letting them get away with no consequences. I don’t think that setting up a hotline and giving us websites is all that they can do. There has to be SOMETHING that has to be done. I don’t know if suing is the right thing but it probably is the best option to get people to be more aware. Everything seems so corrupt and this is just another one of those times that makes me really regret choosing coming here.</p>
<p>They aren’t getting away with murder. This type of stuff is bad pr for the university. At least they are making people aware of what’s going on setting up a website and letting people know what they can do about it. Not much the University can do except damage control and prevent future leaks.</p>
<p>I’d feel upset, but I wouldn’t see any good in suing the University as I’d probably be financially ruined and in severe debt before such a case would end.</p>
<p>I’d just like to point out that this sort of thing happens regularly at other universities and colleges as well (ex. UCLA, USC, Harvard, etc.). I think don’t think you can blame the university for being a large collection of important information for thousands of students and their family member that hackers like to target.</p>
<p>10K to 160K though. lol but I guess they’re not as big. Really though, I expected more from Berks seeing as how we’re supposed to be great at compsci/ee.</p>
<p>The eecs department has no hand in security. In fact, we have our own networks because we don’t wanna deal with the ******** the overall university has.</p>
<p>I’d like to say that the University is certainly NOT going to go bankrupt if they get sued for this. Dealing with big institutions like the UC system is a game. If you want to stay in it, have your voice heard and do something, you have to enter into a world they understand…this is why I mention a class action lawsuit. This is not about money. What are we supposed to do? Say, “Oh well, can you please stop using inferior security methods so that my valuable health and identifying information is not stolen and used by international hackers/theives?” The University has let this happen several times before. No other University has had so many problems with identity theft. It is truly the fault of the University. We can all just sit around and say, “oh well, that stuff happens” or say, “What? I gave them my personal information and they have it on a public site that was hacked for months without anyone knowing?” What exactly is the University responsible for? If you bought a car, or some other purchase and they let your information get stolen and used for identity theft, wouldn’t you be mad at the car dealership? What if they left thousands of social security numbers and personal info of all their clients on a laptop sitting around…and it gets stolen? This is what happened in 2004 with UCB. Wouldn’t you be upset? I am the one who is PAYING to get an education. I am GIVING the University money in exchange for a service. They are responsible for keeping my personal information safe. That is all.</p>
<p>Harvard at least worked to keep the students safe. Instead of sending everyone an email, they provided fraud service to any student affected… and then worked with the students… <em>as I read from the article</em></p>
<p>Cal seems to take a whole different attitude. It’s not just one isolated incident… It was going on for 6 months!!! And then they send us an email and that’s it.</p>
<p>Suing the school that you currently attend is the stupidest thing you can do. Why would you want to take even more money away from an institution that is already fiscally strained, especially if you go there? Do you want even larger classes and less resources? Just suck it up and follow the instructions that they gave you in that e-mail. Hackers are always going to be one step ahead and all anyone can do is try to react as they come. Hell, even government computers are occasionally compromised.</p>
<p>No offense but I would sue it. I don’t even attend the school yet for some reason, they hold some of my information. It is not only that. UCB is barely doing anything done to make certain people know that their data have been stolen. They had contacted me using my old e-mail that I rarely check and since most of my friends who do not attend UCB and who may also have been affected but have completely forgotten their e-mail account, how will they ever know that they are in danger of identity theft? Anyways, I have warned my friends who applied to UCB last year to check their e-mail and am waiting patiently for this case to be solved.</p>
<p>To Shua: You say suing the University I attend would be the stupidest thing to do since they are fiscally strapped? And to “suck it up” because hackers will always be around? THAT is the stupidest thing I’ve heard. That’s like saying, why would you arrest criminals because they will always be around. By arresting criminals in your town you will use up more resources and your state penitentiary system will be using up our taxes and resources etc. If you get robbed, then just suck it up because you will be depleting your state funds by adding another criminal to the system.</p>
<p>The fact is no network is safe from hackers. Why is everyone’s reaction when something goes wrong to “sue sue sue”. We should be more constructive in our reaction, encourage the university to get encrypt data, etc. etc…</p>
<p>I think that might be the point that ucstudent is trying to make. The university won’t be encouraged to change its way until they are forced into a lawsuit. I feel like right now, they are not taking it seriously enough. ucstudent makes a lot of good points and that analogy to the criminal system is brilliant.</p>
<p>I’d like to say that I agree that a more constructive approach should be taken rather than sue, but this has been tried several times before! This is the THIRD letter of this sort I have received in the past 4 years. Right now, I can’t get credit, I have a million jobs listed on my social security records that are not from me, someone is claiming to be me, is taking my taxes, is taking my stimulus checks, etc. It is a serious pain in the rear. I’ve been dealing with law enforcement, IRS, Social Security, etc. to no avail. Please understand that the University WAS seriously lacking in sufficient security to protect their students valuable information . You people keep talking like you just have to say “please stop” very nicely. Just wait, when it happens to you, you will be singing a different tune. You will feel violated and when your life is ruined from identity theft and the police, IRS, etc. points to the other and nobody wants to help you, you will then realize why it is so important for the University to take this seriously. How many times does this have to happen on a scale of hundreds of thousands until you realize something more drastic has to happen?</p>
lol but I guess they’re not as big. Really though, I expected more from Berks seeing as how we’re supposed to be great at compsci/ee.</p>