<p>Hey guys, I was wondering if few people could give me some insight on Berkeley's and Johns Hopkins engineering. I know if you purely look at engineering, it is Berkeley hands down, but I want to look at the universities in general as well.
Any advertisement of these two universities from the current students / graduates would be awesome as well :)</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Berkeley has better reputation than JHU in engineering and overall.
The only thing JHU is better at is Medical School.</p>
<h2>liu02bhs wrote: “The only thing JHU is better at is Medical School.”</h2>
<p>strange statement. Firstly, not true if you consider that UCSF is Berkeley’s de facto med school, but beyond that, JHU is less than half the size of Berkeley. That is unimportant to some, and critical to others. It is possible that the learning environment of JHU is better for OP than Berkeley… or not.</p>
<p>DunninLA:</p>
<p>Don’t kid yourself. UCSF is a great Medical School, but JHU School of Medicine is simply better than it by a lot of measures. Harvard Med is the closest in comparison to JHU Med. Then there is a drop-off. And then, UPenn, WashU, UCSF, Duke, etc.</p>
<p>In terms of undergraduates, I don’t think the school’s reputations differ that much. I can’t speak for UCB from personal experience, but I know of plenty of Hopkins undergrad engineers who have gone on to Stanford grad, UCB grad, MIT grad, etc and/or highly sought after jobs. </p>
<p>At the end of the day, it depends on what you want in size. JHU will offer you more personal attention and a more LAC-like atmosphere. For most of the engineering department, advising is about only 3-5 students per engineering advisor, which is definitely not something you can say about UCB.
Overall, the schools are similar in that they excel in just about every field, though I would say Hopkins probably pays a lot more attention to undergrads than UCB.</p>
<p>Plus east coast vs. west coast.</p>
<p>Hope2 – you may be right, as medicine is not my field. I can only report that the USNWR rankings of med schools put JHU at #2 in Research, and #37 in Primary Care, wheras UCSF is #5 and #5. I supppose it depends on one’s priorities in medicine.</p>
<p>^^DunninLA,</p>
<p>I can see where your thinking comes from, and in Primary Care, UCSF is probably the better institution. However, in terms of the overall medical institutions, Hopkins is probably better in most respects than every other medical school out there (including Harvard). Students have access to the Johns Hopkins Hospital, which has been ranked as arguably the #1 Hospital in the Country and/or World since the beginning of Hospital rankings. History has typically shown that JHU School of Medicine is the most highly regarded school of medicine in the country.</p>
<p>Good grief…yeah, let’s talk about medical school when the OP was asking about engineering…:rolleyes:</p>
<p>Both are great, but Berkeley is known for its engineering. You’re required to graduate in 4 years, so none of this crap about taking 5 years to graduate due to not getting classes. College of Engineering has the Buddy Program (new students are assigned a continuing student buddy) and alumni mentorship program.</p>
<p>IMO, the San Francisco Bay Area offers more for prospective engineers than Baltimore.</p>
<p>I would lean to Berkeley (but of course I’m biased)…but what kind of out-of-pocket cost differences are we looking at?</p>
<p>Hopkins is better at UCB at getting research dollars. No one, not even Amy Guttman of UPenn would disagree with that.</p>
<p>Hopkins is unrivalled at getting federally funded, peer reviewed, highly competitive grants from US Gov’t.</p>
<p>Research funding rankings are looked highly upon by Presidents of major research universities… So JHU’s domination of the NSF/NIH rankings (even with APL excluded) for the past 30 years factored heavily in USNWR PA Assessment score. :D</p>
<p>But yeah, I will concede. Berkeley is most definitely among the top 5 in the world for engineering.</p>
<p>Hopkins is tied with Princeton/Northwestern for #14 in USNWR Engineering ranking (NOT GOOD ENOUGH!)</p>
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<p>What an ignorant comment.</p>
<p>Phead, JHU manipulates that data and you know it. Berkeley doesn’t count med school research and govt. funded labs in its research $. If you added Berkeley + UCSF + LBNL + LLNL + LANL, it would far exceed JHU research $.</p>
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It’s among top 3.</p>
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Since you brought it up, Berkeley’s PA score is higher than JHUs as well :D</p>
<p>This one is really a tough call. In general, the reputation of the engineering programs at Berkeley is better than JHU with the exception of BME, but the overall undergraduate prestige goes to JHU for its small, elite student population, keeping in mind that a sizable of Berkeley’s undergraduate students are community college transfers ( I am not saying community colleges are not prestigous). You probably will have more opportunities in JHU than in Berkeley because of its small undergraduate size. </p>
<p>I’d say if money is an issue, go to Berkeley, otherwise JHU.</p>
<p>together with MIT and Stanford, UC Berkeley is among the top 2 or 3 best engineering programs in the country</p>
<p>nothing else needs to be said</p>
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<p>While this is true for the general undergraduate population, the student to faculty ratios for the engineering schools are comparable between JHU and Berkeley.</p>
<p>good on point comment NCL</p>
<p>thanks everyone for their feedback!!! sorry i was so late in getting back to my OWN post -.-</p>
<p>@NCL: thanks for that! I was really unsure about that :)</p>
<p>@Professor: I was checking out the prices and found that the cost isn’t too different from Berkeley to Johns Hopkins… matter of 3k which is affordable, so if that’s the case, you would recommend JHU over Berkeley?</p>
<p>@UCBChem: so does Berkeley fund research as well as if not better than JHU? Would the competition be bigger than in JHU for resources?</p>
<p>^ With the exception of BME, Berkeley engineering faculty members are likely better funded than their JHU counterparts. Berkeley College of Engineering has 10x as many members of National Academy of Science and National Academy of Engineering, which generally correlates with better established and funded research programs.</p>
<p>okay so yeah Berkeley definitely has better engineering, and if you look at engineering / opportunities regarding engineering, JHU and Berkeley are on par in terms of teacher:student ratio, funding, etc - meaning Berkeley would be an overall better choice 
but still really sucks to be turnin down JHU…</p>
<p>Thanks everyone for help!!!</p>
<p>Take the schools environment into consideration, both schools are highly competetive, and UCB is also cheaper and in a college town. But UCB is also extremely large and crowded plus its full of overly competetive people who are willing to sabatoge projects to succeed in a class, (get an A) it will be difficult to get an A in both. Look on College *******s for their ratings, they do a good job of rating colleges based on student experiences.</p>
<p>Berkeley engineering peers: MIT and Stanford</p>
<p>JHU is good but it doesn’t compare to the prestige of a UCB engineering degree. The engineering college at cal is well funded, with the best faculty in the nation, and with tons of advising. my engineering friends complain that there is too much advising, and they just want to be left alone! your peers will also be some of the smartest in the world</p>
<p>Also, consider the environments. Berkeley is on a hill overlooking the bay and golden gate bridge, with san francisco skyline in view. This is one of the most desirable places to live in the country, with its vibrant, booming tech sector. Some of the best food in the world is here, and food around campus in berkeley is cheap and tasty. Baltimore just doesn’t compare.</p>
<p>Good job resurrecting an three year old thread.</p>