I am a student who will be applying for transfer to Cal this fall. Should transfer students send their AP score results to Berkeley or to their pre-transfer college? Thanks.
To their CC, and then to Cal once/if you are accepted.
@luckie1367 Why would I send it to both? That seems like a serious bureaucratic oversight. If it’s verified by the CCC then why would it need to be verified by UCB? Or, at the very least, for what reason would I need to send them to my CCC if ultimately the only purpose of the credits laid with Berkeley. Seems very convoluted and confusing, why do you say so? Have you got a source on that info?
For 2016, right? Are those AP scores to waive some class requirements? You can email the admissions office and ask.
@“aunt bea” Depending on what you mean by “waive”, perhaps. I have AP scores which hold equivalency to two Humanities courses, and the rest of my AP credit would go towards general units. So, that basically handles all of my humanities (I believe I may still have one to account for, considering I’ve already completed equivalencies for: R1A, R1B, History 7A, Geography 1(? Human Geo), and Psychology 1, that I can think of presently).
CCCs and UCs sometimes grant different units from AP tests. You’ll have to send them in to both your UC and your CC (or pre-transfer college). The UC will want the official proof that you have completed your AP tests, especially because AP credit counts for so much of your required courses.
http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/uc-transfers/893112-sending-in-ap-scores-to-a-uc.html - Read the provisional contract.
https://www.admissions.ucla.edu/NewBruins/Offl_Rec_Transfer.htm - “If you passed any Advanced Placement (AP) or higher level International Baccalaureate (IB) exams you must have official results sent to UCLA by the testing agency to receive credit.”
Yes, the CCC will use to give you credit for IGETC, etc, while the UC will need the scores if you’re accepted.
Dude, I don’t make the rules, I’m just telling you how it is.
I agree that it doesn’t make sense to have to send them multiple times.
From my own experience, my CC wanted an official report, and UCLA wanted an official report. The CC didn’t put the scores on my transcript, they just put them into their system.
It is common, when you transfer schools, that the new school will want to receive AP scores and transcripts from each previous school. For example:
You attended, in this order:
High school, got AP scores
College X
College Y
College Z
College X will want to see your AP scores.
College Y will want to see your AP scores and transcript from College X.
College Z will want to see your AP scores and transcripts from Colleges X and Y.
The reason is that each college may evaluate AP scores and previous transfer credit differently from the way that your most recent previous college did.
@lindyk8
Consider the following:
The College of Engineering does not recognize the
Intersegmental General Education Transfer Curriculum (IGETC) and strongly
discourages students from following this option due to the number of
major-specific technical courses required for engineering transfer admission." - Assist 2015 Agreement for UCB CoE.
@luckie1367 Sure, but my school hasn’t asked for my scores. In fact, my transfer coordinator told me to just send them to Berkeley, but I wanted a more substantiated and officiated opinion, which I’d hope to either find here, or at the very least find indirectly here. I see no reason (not just reasonably, but explicitly) why I should send my scores to my CC. I must admit, it is rather annoying that there’s no de facto answer for this from any of UC’s direct resources. Surely I’m not the first transfer student to have taken an AP test, surely.
@alxmck You’re an engineering major. If your transfer coordinator said they did not need them, then there’s no reason why you’ll have to send your scores to your CC, unless you want to bypass entry level classes (my CC didn’t require the official scores, just a printout showing my score from the collegeboard website, so you probably won’t have to do that), you want IGETC certification by using AP units (which you clearly don’t), or you want an AA partly satisfied by AP units (which I doubt). Many transfer students fulfill IGETC with units from AP tests, which makes it necessary to send scores to their CC and their UC. Both grant units from the scores differently, and they use the scores for different purposes. Generally, most people who transfer from a CC send their scores both to their CC (to bypass classes and use the scores as units to satisfy IGETC) and their UC (needless to say). If you do not need to send them to your CC, and you are absolutely sure that you do not need to, then don’t. I’m happy to send my scores to both my CC and my future UC, because shelling out a mere $15 is a relatively
Regardless, there need not be any explicit statement explaining this, as it is rather obvious that any institution that requires information from a certain document will desire an official copy. worthless thing to argue against, and I’d much rather be safe than sorry.
I don’t think we can give you a better opinion than your CC counselor… :-/
If your CC doesn’t need them, don’t send them to your CC. Easy.
However, Berkeley may or may not hold you scores if you send them. I’d call them and ask.
@goldencub @luckie1367 That, regarding whether or not each institution would require official documentation individually for independent reasons at either institution, is not the question I’d meant to raise (if that was what it seemed). I don’t care to receive an A.S. or IGETC, as neither are worthwhile ventures for me, as you’d guessed it (but I did actually use my unofficial printout to satisfy pre-req’s). I will have 59 transferable units (as rewarded by my school) without AP credit when transferring, so, without the addition of my AP credits, on the most minor of technicalities, I’d be unable to qualify based on 59 < 60 necessary unitis. However, I have some AP credits which should amount to ~15 in total, putting me well above the necessary limit. So, somewhat (but not what I would guess to be too) uniquely, I need to show that I have these credits in order to meet transfer requirements. So, the question to admissions would be: are the sum of these individual credits sufficient when presented by these two institutions (college board and CC) independent of one another to meet credit requirements (59 + ~15 >= 60), or need I consolidate, for some reason, these credits? Does that make my situation a bit more clear? I ask here, because I might guess that someone here might have a more official opinion (or at least know where it may be stated explicitly) as I think this is a situation which does in fact need explicit clarification. “Should be fine” is not exactly where I like to rest on these matters.
Section 2 of http://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/counselors/files/apply-online-transfer.pdf indicates that you report your AP scores separately from courses and grades you took at previous colleges.
Credit for AP scores at UC in general is given at http://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/counselors/files/CC11_UsingAPforAdmission_final.pdf . For Berkeley engineering specifically, see http://engineering.berkeley.edu/academics/undergraduate-guide/exams-ap-ib-level-and-transfer-credit-information .
Ah, I misunderstood you. Well, if you send your scores to UCB, they will have your scores, and that’s all that matters. Regarding sending scores to your CC, I’m not sure, but if your transfer coordinator said you need not, then I’m sure they’re correct and you won’t need to send them to your CC. It seems your CC has no use for them.
It’s important to note that CC’s and UC’s grant units differently. For example, for a 3, 4, or 5 on my AP Literature & Comp exam, my CC awards 8 semester units, while Cal awards 5.333 units. Right there, there would be a discrepancy if my units were somehow consolidated onto one sheet of paper.
The sum of the two unit totals is sufficient. In my TAG planner, I reported both units taken / planned as well as my AP units, with the latter on the separate portion of the application. I’m absolutely sure the actual UC app will be similar.
If you are concerned that they won’t see that you have the min 60, just put a note about it in the additional comments saying something along the lines of ‘and I will transfer ~15 units from AP credit’
Just be aware that you don’t get to double dip, i.e if you have an AP score of 4 on Lang and you take English 1, you don’t get credit for both.
Actually I believe the English AP can be used for a humanities. But I may be wrong.
@lindyk8 I think you’re right, and I’m not sure on the specifics. I just wanted to make sure OP knew about it.
They always say if you have two English AP, one for english, one for humanities. But it is true, I’m not sure if the first one can go to humanities by itself. But I assume it can. Another possible thing to check. IT NEVER ENDS! :((
UC gives at most 8 quarter or 5.3 semester units for AP English tests. Of course, if you take the college English courses that AP English can substitute for, then you would not get credit for both.