<p>What does the response rate tell you?</p>
<p>Well, CMU’s response rate was 98%, that means that almost all the CMU grads were working or they went to grad school, while Berkeley’s response rate was almost 50%, both of them worked for big companies but I feel that Berkeley’s grads will be working more in companies but they didn’t sent their job specs, 308 graduated from UCB and 132 graduated for CMU</p>
<p>I applied to UCB (EECS) and CMU (SCS) as well. To be honest, getting into these programs is really, really hard. CMU has like 7% acceptance rate for SCS. EECS has like a 13% acceptance rate. If you have any of the two options you are fortunate! I know people in both programs, and to be honest they all said it is extremely tough and you hardly have enough time. So, it doesn’t matter you will not have free time for 4 years in either colleges. BUT, you will be extremely happy after you graduate. I personally would choose SCS over EECS just because I am closer to CMU and SCS is freek’n awesome… the new building and resources are just word-class. But UCB EECS is really good too. So, I guess it would come down to personal opinion.</p>
<p>Thank you agg999</p>
<p>Graduates enthusiastically respond to a career survey because they feel happy. They ignore the survey because they don’t feel good, they did not land on a satisfactory job, or they still struggle to find a job. Does this make sense?</p>
<p>oh… is that so? I didn’t knew this. But at least they should respond as “unemployed”</p>
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<p>How do you know that this is the case?</p>
<p>I’m also confused @ucbalumnus , I think you’re an alumni so you can tell me better about EECS at UC Berkeley.</p>
<p>@mak1702. Here you go:</p>
<p><a href=“http://blog.pitchbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/20131023-Andy-Universities-Top-10-2010-2013.jpg”>http://blog.pitchbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/20131023-Andy-Universities-Top-10-2010-2013.jpg</a>
<a href=“http://blog.pitchbook.com/top-universities-producing-vc-backed-entrepreneurs/”>http://blog.pitchbook.com/top-universities-producing-vc-backed-entrepreneurs/</a></p>
<p>oh yeah @gravitas2 you made my day… 
but this for which BS or MBA?</p>
<p>All grads…most entrepreneurs/founders from Stanford/Berkeley only hold BS/BA degrees…very few hold MBAs. </p>
<p>Yeah, I also want to open a startup after graduating, nice link @gravitas2 thank you so much!
Also can you give me the answer of what @ucbalumnus quoted in his previous comment.</p>
<p>I agree with ucbalumnus. You can’t tell much from whether 98% filled out survey vs 50% filled out survey…because you are comparing apples and oranges. Historically small private schools (good or bad) usually have more alumni participation in surveys than large public universities like Berkeley, Michigan, or UVA (just the nature of the beast). The most objective way to compare is to look at the graduates from each department: CS to CS or EE to EE and see what the average salaries are with BS degree after graduation, then 5 years out, then 10 years out…</p>
<p>yeah you’re right , I agree with you! thank you ! you made my day… :)</p>
<p>For Berkeley, CS to CS can sort of* be compared with other schools, but EE to EE cannot, because there is just the EECS major, a large percentage of whose students emphasize CS (based on upper division EE course enrollments), so the EECS results are a mixture of EE and CS post-graduation outcomes. EE to EE comparisons may also not exactly be apples-to-apples due to the various subareas of EE that may be emphasized at different schools.</p>
<p>*However, be careful about comparing career surveys between different schools, since the survey methodology can vary (e.g. when surveyed), as can the reporting methodology (e.g. mean versus median pay, and how various outcome categories are defined, particularly “other”).</p>
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<p>Um…no? Thanks for giving your opinion but a opinion is an opinion. Some of us seniors are just too lazy to do the survey. Why would we bother to take a survey if we don’t get anything out of it? I get so many surveys from the school, why would I bother to take some/ if any of them? </p>
<p>If you’re interested in the Silicon Valley area, I would recommend Stanford or Berkeley. There are many good EECS/CS programs, but it is also dependent on location. A majority of people that graduate from Berkeley end up staying in the San Francisco area simply because the job network is there. It is just easier to get connected with the companies. Apple, Twitter, and other tech companies heavily recruit at Berkeley. I also have two friends graduating this year with EECS majors and they already got jobs with six digit salaries. </p>
<p>EDIT: Though computer science has gotten a little TOO popular lately, and even the intro to computer science class at Berkeley has surpassed 1000 students…so the ratio of students to professor is very high. You would be in a class of 600 students for the first couple of computer science classes (but this is a public school…if you want to have better teacher/student ratios and easier class selection and better services/etc, then pay for a private school). </p>
<p>Oh thank you @ucbalumnus and @totalcaprice … I don’t care about the classes, I just want to work in the Silicon Valley after my graduation…the main concern is that will I get the classes( due to budget cuts)?? will I be able to graduate in 4 years? Thank you! and @totalcaprice Are you a current student at Berkeley?</p>
<p>Four year graduation rate was 72% for the fall 2008 entering frosh.
<a href=“http://opa.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/GradRatesBriefJan2013.pdf”>http://opa.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/GradRatesBriefJan2013.pdf</a></p>
<p>Yep, I’m a current student here. I haven’t had any trouble getting my classes nor have my EECS friends, but I think some people struggle getting into classes. Freshman year tends to be a little worse off because your appointment time seems random (some say that coming in with more AP units, college units helps), but I personally didn’t get a class I wanted only a few times. Though I am a senior, so it might be better to get input from someone who is a freshman/sophomore 
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<p>It is possible to graduate in 4 years (not that difficult), but I do know of people who have had to take an extra semester or a year to finish their requirements (but that is usually because they change majors or cant decide a major until last minute…). My major (Econ) makes it easier for me to graduate in 3 years, but EECS majors have more requirements (just means its more inflexible). However, I do know a few people who are doubling in EECS and Business/or Stat, and they are graduating in four years easily. </p>
<p>and how’s OSKI?</p>