UC Berkeley vs. Middlebury

<p>Mom4, i am not a "poseur." I really did apply to midd and i did mostly because my uncle went there and i heard they had a good econ program. This was not my first choice school and applied to it because i was under pressure.</p>

<p>Yes dear,
I'm really am a mom, and one of my kids will be attending Middlebury, which we are very happy about. I couldn't help myself as I read your postings, because you are rude, obnoxious, and your values--prestige above all else--are disappointing to say the least. So it's been in my own interest to see that whoever you are, you aren't going to be in my child's life. </p>

<p>And why are you wasting time on this site when you have already made your decision?</p>

<p>I am SO glad you're going to Berkeley.</p>

<p>I agree :-)
He'd totally ruin the 'chill' found at our LACS.</p>

<p>Btw doofus, there's a parents forum here. You do realize that a lot of times parents help with admissions esp decisions because they PAY for them...</p>

<p>CC was formed by a Smith Adcom member (i think) who was probably also a parent...</p>

<p>Your limited scope of knowledge is wonderful. Ignorance is bliss my friend :-)</p>

<p>I understand there is a parents forum..Thats where PARENTS should be. Not on these boards. Also, why in the world does it matter that this site was built by a person who was probably a parent? CC is a business that makes a lot of money from kids that want college advice, etc. and i dont think that a student would be able to create this kind of business. </p>

<p>Itsnice to have useless knowledge though, huh, ridethecliche</p>

<p>Yup, never know what an employer might be interested. Talking tangents always helps during interviews :-)</p>

<p>CC could have been made by a student, atleast the forum part of it. They wouldn't have been able to render the services but they could have easily found someone to help with it.</p>

<p>I haven't spent a penny here, and I have had some good advice.
Parents and alums have every right to be on the forums of their alma maters and school that their kids are going to. Sorry you disagree, but this community doesn't share your opinion :-)</p>

<p>Im not syaing that they dont have te right. I just think that its SUPER weird and awkward to talk to a parent on this forum. Her child should be on the message boards, but why her? She has the right...But does it reall mean that she should excersize that right. I mean there are a lot of rights that my parents could excersize, but they dont because they have lives and they're not losers.</p>

<p>Agreed.
They're not losers.
But you are :-)
Have fun at berke, you won't be missed at midd.</p>

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She has the right...But does it reall mean that she should excersize that right.

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<p>You have the right to free speech, but does it "reall mean that [you] should excersize that right." (I am preserving your awful grammar and spelling)</p>

<p>Believe me, you would be doing us all a favor if you did not exercise that right.</p>

<p>Nice nspeds, you only focus on the grammar and spelling in my posts but not the actual substance and the fact that Berkeley dominates Midd in every possible aspect and Midd costs about $30,000 more. Haha...Have fun paying back those loans with a degree from Middlebury</p>

<p>You NEVER stated cost was a concern...
And you're just a *****ing jackass, a midd degree goes far and pulls it's own weight.
I'm done with this thread and your comments, like I said earlier, good luck at berkeley. Later for rizzle...</p>

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Haha...Have fun paying back those loans with a degree from Middlebury

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<p>...to whom am I paying these loans? Last I checked, I do not attend Middlebury and neither do I obtain financial aid.</p>

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actual substance and the fact that Berkeley dominates Midd in every possible aspect and Midd costs about $30,000 more.

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<p>I do not buy that in the least. If I did not attack the "actual substance" of your post, it was because there was none.</p>

<p>I live about twenty minutes from Berkeley, and both my parents are alumns, so I potentially could have gone there, but I didn't even bother applying. (I'm a sophomore at Midd, for the record). True, Berkeley is a much more recognizable name, but I didn't want to be anonymous in a 300+ lecture hall--my parents didn't think that would be good for me either. And yes, the average person doesn't know about Middlebury (when asked, I say I attend Middlebury College in Vermont). That being said, employers are generally in the know about LACs, and Middlebury's certainly up there. If you want an academic challenge, wonderful professors who actually teach classes as opposed to T. A's, and only one roommate as opposed to two or three, then go to Midd--Berkeley's always an option for grad school.</p>

<p>no one seems to notice the significant difference in price.</p>

<p>a few people mentioned the price difference, but no one dwelled on it because in Post 9, the OP says "Money is not much of an issue for me..."</p>

<p>Its funny how you people can completely disrespect Berkeley, saying things like "have fun in 300 person lectures," and when some makes the same (disrespectful) comments about your school you're all up in arms. Why do you need to knock another school to make yours seem better? How many of you have actually gone to Cal? None? So what gives you such great insight into what the school is really like? And by the way, since class size seems to be a big issue for you here are some numbers you might find interesting:</p>

<p>Percentage of classes with fifty or more students:</p>

<p>Brown=12 percent</p>

<p>Harvard=13 percent</p>

<p>Berkeley=15 percent</p>

<p>So, are all of these schools horrible because of their "huge" classes, or is it just Berkeley?</p>

<p>I don't think anyone said Berkeley was horrible... nor do I think Berkeley is anything but an outstanding school, albiet, an outstanding school that isn't right for me. In the same light, it is hard to say that a person is little more than the number in a school when the undergraduate size is over 20,000, just because of the sheer size of the campus. What I'm trying to say is this... this argument is stupid, and although I will be enrolling at Middlebury next year, I did apply and was accepted to Berkeley. It is an outstanding education with a fantastic name, it just wasn't what I wanted. That's not to say it won't be perfect for ab<em>med or anyone else who is going to Berkeley. I also think that there is a MAJOR difference between going to a LAC and a major research university and a person can get a top-notch education at both, regardless of class sizes. For some, small classes are better, but that might not have any bearing on what another person might benefit from. There is a reason schools like Harvard and Berkeley are mentioned in the same breath, and Middlebury and Amherst are mentioned in another, but it has nothing to do with the quality of educations at any of those schools. Ab</em>med, Berkeley may be right for you... you just have to learn not to be an a$$.</p>

<p>People weren't criticizing berkeley over here, they were criticizing the OP for putting down Midd...</p>

<p>About that Boalt law school list, were there any subjective factors in there as well? Or were schools ranked JUST on the basis of lack of grade inflation and how high students scored on the LSAT? I was surprised to see Colgate at an 88 when Amherst is at an 83-84, but I'm assuming that just means Colgate has less grade inflation than Amherst. Grades are important once you're out of college, but don't necessarily reflect how much you can learn while you're there.</p>