UC: chance of scholarship/merit aid for OOS

Hi,
on maximum, my family can support my daughter’s education at $20k/year.
what the chance of receiving significant amount of scholarship/ merit as OOS at UCs? She is a US citizen studying overseas, SAT 1490, rank 7 of ~320s students in a public school, No AP/IB offering in the school, HS doesn’t calculate GPA, some ECs but not very impressive. won No 1. title of national engineering competition (199 teams in total).

any chance to receive merit scholarship at any univ of california campus? need at least 30-40k/year. If no chance for OOS, we won’t spend money and time to apply for UC.
Appreciate your comments.

UC schools don’t provide financial aid for OOS. Period.

No merit for OOS?

Nope.

She might qualify for Regents or a Chancellors scholarship at some of the UC campuses but the majority of FA is need-based for in-state California residents.

You should expect to pay close to Full fees at $65k/year for her to attend.

You could use the Net Price calculators to see an estimate of your financial contributions.

Below is the Regent scholarship amounts and they are only a drop in the bucket compared to the OOS fees.

UC Regents Scholarships and the amounts/year:
Amount: Awards vary by campus and are not transferable if you transfer to another UC campus.

  • UC Berkley $2,500
  • UC Davis $7,500
  • UC Irvine $5,000
  • UCLA $2,000
  • UC Merced $7,000
  • UC Riverside $10,000
  • UC San Diego $2,000
  • UC Santa Barbara $6,000
  • UC Santa Cruz $5,000

In addition, certain perks are provided to Regents recipients: priority registration, extended library privileges, honors dormitories, faculty mentorship, and others, dependent upon campus.

Number of Scholarships Awarded: Varies annually—students in the top 1-2% of the applicant pool are considered for the scholarship.

You aren’t going to get $30,000-$40,000 a year in merit aid from any UC.

And no need based aid at all…not a nickel.

Is she a senior now…and just asking this question?

Wow! I was always of the opinion that UC did not offer any aid to OOS. After the above post I checked and it’s true that Regents/Chancellors scholarships are offered to OOS. It may be a drop in the bucket, but as a CA taxpayer I am highly opposed to this practice given the widespread unmet need in the state.

This was posted to you @tigerusa on October 8. Did you not see this…or not believe it? Or did you think something had changed.

Thank you to @twoinanddone

In addition, your other posts indicate that your daughter is currently a college student elsewhere studying health sciences. Is that correct? And she is looking to transfer to another college. Is that correct?

If so, please understand that very often merit aid awards are best for incoming freshmen, not transfer students.

Could you please clarify your daughter’s current college status?

This is the thread

http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/canada/2115879-chance-of-transferring-to-canada-universities.html#latest

Do you have two daughters?

This is my second daughter in senior year now. As there is no big merit for OOS, she won’t put application in next two days (deadline 11/30). Even regents scholarship is not enough, not mention that she might not be qualified due to so many high stats OOS.
We will pass UCs.

Thanks.

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There are a lot of states that give financial aid and merit money to California residents. California residents are getting much more than they are giving.

Actually, it is possible, but rare and only for specific circumstances.

Regents scholarships at UCB historically have offered a need-based amount (in state or out of state, meeting FAFSA need without student loans or work), or an honoarium of $2.500 in state or an amount approximating the out of state extra tuition for out of state. (Frosh or transfer eligible.)

There is also the full ride Drake scholarship for mechanical engineering majors only (separate application, frosh only).

Both should be considered super reaches at best for any applicant.

Most other campuses’ Regents scholarships do not have greater amounts for out of state or high FA need applicants (though the amounts will reduce the student contribution in the need based FA).

Except at UCB, any OOS Regents scholar drawn to a UC will be a net subsidizer at OOS list price minus the (relatively small) scholarship amount.

At UCB, an OOS Regents scholar becomes financially like an in state Regents scholar.

@Gumbymom

@ucbalumnus says that “historically” regents scholars at UCB get full need met…including need based aid. Is this still true?

And is there data to show how many students from OOS actually receive this?

What is wrong with your in state options?

@thumper1:

As far as I am aware, the Regents scholars at UCB do receive FA beyond the $2500 Honorarium if they have financial need determined by the University. I have no specific data for how many OOS or International students receive the award but some numbers that have been posted is around 50 out of the 200 that enroll including Freshman and Transfers. Also OOS/International students have a higher level for eligiblity.

[quote]
Need-Based Award
Scholars may not receive more than their financial need as determined by the Financial Aid and Scholarships Office. Domestic and international scholars who wish to be considered for an award above the honorarium must submit a Free Application for Federal Student Aid (FAFSA: http://www.fafsa.ed.gov) to the Federal Student Aid Information Center by the March 2nd deadline for each academic year of their scholarship tenure. A United States Social Security Number is required to complete the form.
Scholarship amounts are subject to the availability of funds, and are determined annually, according to financial aid guidelines. Awards may not exceed the Undergraduate Student Budget set each year by the University, and are applied to the financial aid package after federal and state grants and other outside agency or departmental scholarships or awards.

@tigerusa @techno13: Anytime an individual (OOS/International) posts regarding FA for the UC’s, I try to answer in general terms such as the UC’s offer little to no financial aid to the majority of these applicants. As always, there are exceptions such as Regents and Chancellor Scholars but these applicants are the top 1-2% of all applicants applying and not all UC’s are as generous as UCB.

First priority is in-state applicants for all the UC’s but to also attract highly qualified academic talent, the UC’s do offer some FA to non-resident students.

Every school will have highly competitive scholarships/FA awards so when someone ask their chances in receiving these awards, they are extremely low and should not counted on to make the UC’s affordable.

Any OOS/International applicant should assume they will pay full fees and use this assumption as a basis for determining if the UC’s are worth the cost.

It’s good to know ahead of time that UCs won’t work.

They are barely affordable for CA students unless they are Calgrant eligible.

There are some schools in Arizona and New Mexico that would give her merit.

What is her career goal?

Where is she instate?

Note that this applied in 2018-19: https://financialaid.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/docs/forms/RC_Terms_Conditions_OOS_2018-19.pdf

The income limit for Cal Grants is quite high (compared to the actual income distribution, not what the forum thinks of as “middle class”), although the asset limit is not that high. But it is likely that most college students in California are Cal Grant eligible.

https://www.csac.ca.gov/sites/main/files/file-attachments/2020-21_income_and_asset_ceilings_for_new_applicants_and_renewing_recipients.pdf

Many other states are significantly worse in terms of affordability and student debt:

https://ticas.org/interactive-map/