<p>gabe, he never said anything even close to that. He just agreed that there are classes in college that are a joke like i pointed out. Then he said he wants to change his major to history. :)</p>
<p>Kevin understands how dificult SAT is.</p>
<p>In cc, if u're clever, u can use ratemyprof and finds teachers that are a joke. Take ******** class, get to 60 units w/ a 3.5 and u'll most likely get in to SD, LA, berk.</p>
<p>In HS, u need AP classes, EC, high SAT score(whihc is really dificult unless u're gifted., 4.0+)</p>
<p>well, what about how transfer students get to skip all the weeder classes? These classes are reputed to be the hardest not because of the material but because of the insane curves etc...</p>
<p>Uh, I was responding to YOU, highschoolda. And by the way, I don't think any class in college is a "joke." Something you find to be very easy may be hard for another student.</p>
<p>Obviously the honors program makes it easier for transfer students to be admitted than high school students. High school is longer, more scholastically broad, and more time consuming (not to mention at an earlier point in ones life). This is not to say that transfer students have it easy....</p>
<p>Anyone have numbers on what percentage of TAP students were accepted? TAP probably skews the average acceptance GPA. For those of us (including myself) that do not have the honors program available...it is tough to attain and maintain a high GPA, especially within 2 years.</p>
<p>Very few people have 4.0's here. That in itself says something. All A's and 4 B's (based on 60 units) will lower a GPA to 3.8. That's a great GPA but just those 4 B's will heavily affect ones chances (with no honors) as opposed to the student with a 4.0. Throw a C in there. I don't feel like figuring it out but the GPA will hurt. At a CC, most work FT/PT and have less time than they did in high school. So with few extracurriculars and little margin for error, a grave can be dug quickly.</p>
<p>So to conclude, I would say transfer and freshmen admits both have it tough. The entire process is challenging and anyone capable of getting into such a great university is probably deserving of it.</p>
<p>well my point is that transfers have it a lot easier than freshman admits. They are not inherently less intellectually qualified but they do get a break. Freshman have to jump through all sorts of hoops to get admitted to the top UC's, which transfers can skip. Let's do a short comparison of the two.</p>
<p>Freshman -
1. Must do well all four years of highschool.
2. Must maintain a good GPA while taking the hardest courses available (which includes everything from math, science to history and english)
3. Can't use rate my professor to take the easiest route possible
4. Must do well on the SAT's
5. Must have extracurriculars etc...
6. Personal statement / essays have a big impact
7. Comprehensive review
vs...
Transfers
1. Must maintain a good GPA
2. Can use ratemyprofessor to take the easiest courses. Can take courses only to fulfill breadth/major requirements.
3. Extracurriculars aren't stresses as much, it's mostly GPA
4. Personal statement is used primarily for the borderline candidates..
5. Can skip out on the SAT's</p>
<p>Also, transfers don't have to take the infamous weeders that UCLA and Cal are known for. THey get to maintain high GPA's while Freshman have to deal with classes that are notoriously competitive / difficult.</p>
<p>Ratemyprofs is available for high schools.....</p>
<p>I never heard of these weeder classes. I heard Berkeley had grade deflation and UCLA had inflation. Any more info anyone can provide about this?</p>
<p>it maybe available for highschool but its almost impossible to get a certain teacher. In my highschool you were only allowed to pick what class you wanted to take and the time slot; the teacher you got was whoever fit your criteria.</p>
<p>I dunno about freshman being harder than transfer....</p>
<p>You have 3.5 years (unless you start preppin' in middle school, which u should). There is enough info out there for kids to know what they ought to be doing each year (those calendars), plus u also get HS counselors. </p>
<p>So essentially, u need to be consistent over those years. Sure SATs are unlike any standard subject test, but if you practice early enough (PSATs etc), you should get a good score....it's not impossible unless you weren't really good at them and didnt study until 2nd semester junior (like me)...</p>
<p>What also screwed me up was that I switched HS in 10th, had no close friends and was really shy until 12th... didn't speak up or ask for help, and was lazy...</p>
<p>yeah i suffered from extreme laziness as well... However, now that i've gone to college i know that this is my last chance to do well so i've taken the opportunities.</p>
<p>"So to conclude, I would say transfer and freshmen admits both have it tough. The entire process is challenging and anyone capable of getting into such a great university is probably deserving of it."<<<< This is a good compromise!!!!!!
I stay on this too as i said earlier that:</p>
<p>Anyways, I respect all applicants who got in as a freshman and also as a transfer because most of them are hard working people, eager learners and at least smart. Don't look down on transfering students with the arguments that freshman applicants are smarter... </p>
<p>Look at the official UC websites, they have emphasized many times that transferring students have performed equally well as the admitted freshman students.</p>
<p>Peace... peace ... peace!!!! :D </p>
<p>Notes:
Everyone has his/her opinion and a unique way of viewing on the same matter and we should respect and learn from their opinions. There are 3 possibilities: Accept, reject or suspend judgement. Besides, don't be so clinged to your own opinion that you don't even consider other views--> that would close your mind. Let it open, and let's learn from other points of views!</p>
<p>my tentative schedule
English 1C
Bsad 20B financial accounting
economics 101 some random econ class
and a random class that will fulfill a breadth requirement = either ethnic studies or a fine art.</p>
<p>Mine is:
1. Differential Equation (math after calculus) 5 units (for major)
2. General Biology 4 units (for IGETC)
3. Music Appreciation 3 units (for IGETC)
4. Philosophy Ethics 3 units (for fun)
5. Speech 3 units (for fun)
Total: 18 units</p>
<p>You guys keep talking about honors courses at cc and I'm starting to get worried. My school doesn't offer honors courses. We don't even have a +or - grading system. I know people from my school get into Cal and LA all the time, but I have no idea what their stats are.
Also, on a completely unrelated subject, I want to thank Cal_Girl for talking about her loneliness at school. That's something I've experienced at CC because I moved to Cali from Texas in my first year of college. I'm afraid that as a transfer student I'll have even less in common with my fellow students. It's nice to know that someone else can relate.</p>