<p>I feel great :D</p>
<p>What are you talking about? (Although I am sure I will regret asking this.)</p>
<p>In regards to what?</p>
<p>probably transferring in.</p>
<p>I don't really consider that cheating, at all. </p>
<p>And I think if you call it cheating, you're supporting the point of view that transfers are lazy, less intelligent, and inferior overall to freshman admits. Which I know Citan isn't. But yeah. Enough people out there think that CCC transfers aren't good enough. Don't need our own people backing that up.</p>
<p>there is definitely a perception that transfers are < than people who have been there since the beginning because most transfers couldn't get in as freshman. but who cares, you're in and you get the same degree. the only thing your missing out is the dorm community and all the people you get to meet your first two years.</p>
<p>Of course. </p>
<p>But I encounter people alllll the time at UCLA who do have negative perceptions of transfers. I would never want to reinforce the notion that I "cheated" to get to the same place they are. </p>
<p>Transfers have a higher retention and graduation rates and higher average GPAs than four-year students. But it doesn't matter to them (those who are negatively biased against transfers), because they had a 4.5 in high school and so they win. Which is stupid, and ignorant, and lame, and I take it with the world's tiniest grain of salt. But I'd still never want to support that idea.</p>
<p>us ccers are much better off than freshmen admits since the freshmen admits have 10k more debt than us as a junior</p>
<p>Transfering is in no way cheating....I am not sure how anyone could call it that. I guess kids that lack self esteem will make themselves feel better by putting other people down. I am sure that is where most of it comes from.</p>
<p>That too.</p>
<p>But it's probably closer to 35k after EVERYTHING.</p>
<p>I went to a CCC to save money (hrm).</p>
<p>CC transfers also have a better graduation rate! While freshmans are off partying and taking less units, cc students already finished all of their GE and are most likely to graduate in 4 years over their freshman peers.</p>
<p>Pellman- You did save money. Lots. But people don't take that into consideration, generally, when they think of transfers. </p>
<p>And this isn't to say that lots of people think negatively of transfers. Most people are very welcoming and everything. The transfer bias is usually from a pretty small but pretty adamant group.</p>
<p>i don't associate myself with transfers.</p>
<p>What do you associate yourself with?</p>
<p>other hobo's.</p>
<p>Nice.</p>
<p>10blah.</p>
<p>it would be cheating the system...if it weren't so encouraged to transfer to UCs so they want us there lol.</p>
<p>it's not cheating the system. a lot of us gave up a better social life the last 2+ years to get here. However, if you give uc transfers an sat exam, it's pretty safe to assume we'd score lower. </p>
<p>My sat score two years ago was 1280. at that time ucla average sat score was 1360+ maybe even more. </p>
<p>at my ccc, i was able to find a lot of BS classes that i proly will not find at ucla... so our gpa are over inflated too compared to ucla students who start there.</p>
<p>i think there are differences, but it's not cheating. the reason i say there are differences is i have friends who just took easy classes at ccc and got to top schools. these same friends couldn't pass any AP exams in high school and had very low sat scores too.</p>
<p>transferring is haxx to teh maxx</p>