<p>To AwakenZero: Thank you for your advice. Good luck on your application, too.</p>
<p>Kahn: I transferred already, I'm currently at Cal right now. =] I just hang around to pass my knowledge around to help prospective students around these complex problems.</p>
<p>To AwakenZero: Great Job.. Keep up!</p>
<p>Kahn: Thanks, if you ever consider Cal and you need to know things about it and whats the best place to live at and other details about the University I can help you, just drop me a PM</p>
<p>Thanks so much awaken. I think it makes sense to do what you said, i'll apply as art history. i was planning on trying to do a double major, so even if philosophy wasn't what went on my list i'd still have a chance of majoring in it when im int.</p>
<p>Awaken, at Cal or even at UCLA, are things extremely political in terms of double majoring? Just want to know the feasibility of doing double major philosophy and art history, or is double majoring kind of like one of those "in a perfect world" if the school/administration wasn't so political?</p>
<p>Double majoring is possible however, it is hard depending on how many requirements you will have to complete. The only time when it is impossible is if you are in a program like Haas for Cal. They have strict requirements and double major is almost impossible because they have a timeline of when they want you to graduate.</p>
<p>I'll use my example, if I were to double major in philosophy and sociology then I would have to take summer school two times with an 8 unit course load and throughout the semester I would have to take 15-16 units per semester. For art history and philosophy it would be the same amount of summer school except 16-17 units per semester (that assumes you complete lower division philosophy at your CC). The thing is if you completed lower division requirements then its somewhat easier. If you complete lower division for both majors then it will be one 8 unit summer school and 15 units per semester. So it really depends on the major and how many lower division courses the department accepts from your CC. Both of the majors at Cal are selective on their lower division courses. Not all CCs offer the lower division philosophy courses Cal requires and the art history department at Cal reviews all of your courses to see if they meet lower division requirements. </p>
<p>UCLA by all means is do-able if you can handle a 16 unit per quarter load. This includes all upper division requirements for both majors and it assumes you completed the art history lower division requirements and not the philosophy ones. What you can do is take all of the upper division and over the summer (this summer and next summer) take the philosophy lower division courses at your CC (it saves you time and money since most courses at the UC level includes discussion which means you need more time in school). Hopefully, they offer it at your CC. If not then the other option is 2 summer school sessions at your UC and take two courses each summer.</p>
<p>thanks awaken zero, you've honestly been immense help.
Assuming I'd get in to both. UCLA just seems like the school I'll most likely be attending, specifically for financial reasons(i already live in la and don't have to pay rent).
I will definitely aim at fulfilling philosophy pre reqs this summer, and enter as an art history major(hopefully), and once I'm at ucla double major!
I'm excited.</p>
<p>Good luck with your applications</p>
<p>Sorry one last question, do either UCLA or UCB overcharge per unit if you go over what's considered a full time courseload, or is it the same base fee regardless if you go over the maximum?</p>
<p>I only ask because obviously that's very important in terms of completing a double major.</p>
<p>Flat fees, you can only take a maximum amount of units per semester/quarter. After that max in order to add more you have to petition. The max at UCB is 20.5 and after I outlined your plan there is no way you are going to hit that max.</p>
<p>So they charge the same amount regardless if you took 13 units or 16 units.</p>
<p>Sounds amazing! I think more schools should do this instead of restricting students who are financially needy and can't afford to pay for extra units beyond the normal max amount....i won't mention which privates, but you know who you are.</p>
<p>The system has its pros and cons. Before I forget, after a certain date you are charged fees if you drop. And you are charged fees for enrolling in a course after a certain date.</p>