<p>Right now I'm going to a community college in Indiana, I decided to go there in order to raise my GPA, raise SAT scores and have more time for choosing a 4-year university.
From my high school I have a 3.5 GPA (I came here from Russia my junior year, so have lots of B's from hard Russian school..)
1800 on SAT (going to take it this October since I was not very good at English when I took it my first spring in the US). I also took AP test on Calculus AB (got 3) and Calculus BC (got 2)
So if I stay in the community college for 2 years, I will raise my GPA and will want to apply to UC Berkeley for business. Now I can apply to UCSC and go there next year. But I am not sure if my stats will be good enough for UCB, so why stay in Indiana for one more year and still go to UCSC? And will I be able to transfer to UC Berkeley from UCSC? Maybe transferring from UCSC to UCB later is a better idea?</p>
<p>What about Indiana University? They have a top 30 Business school</p>
<p>barrk123, it’s a good school, but I am in love with NorCal and want to go to a college there… There are a lot of great schools. Also, as I have read, UCSC’s business school is one of the best ones in California (??)</p>
<p>Yes the top business schools in california are</p>
<p>USC
UCB
Santa Clara U
Pepperdine</p>
<p>Maybe look at Santa Clara too if you can afford it</p>
<p>I like Santa Clara University, but I’m not sure if I can afford it :/</p>
<p>So which option is better?</p>
<p>If cost is an issue, then both UCSC and Berkeley will likely not be affordable. As an OOS (out of state) student, the only significant aid available to you would be federal aid. Even the maximum federal aid hardly puts a dent into the $50,000+ OOS COA for a UC.</p>
<p>LVKris, yes, but the cost of private universities is about $40,000 EVERY year, while in UC’s it is about $30,000 for out-of-state students, and about $12,000 later. That’s a big difference.
I also have a question related to it, do out-of-state students pay in-state tuition their next year in a college??</p>
<p>No, the UC system makes it very, very difficult to get classified as in-state.
You have to live in the state for a minimum of a year, you have to change your drivers’ license, voting registration… your parents can’t claim you on tax returns, you have to file your own taxes, and you have to show that you pay for all your own expenses without help from your parents. In other words, you have to prove that you are financially independent.</p>
<p>Even when I was a PhD student at Berkeley, they made it very difficult and I got rejected the first time I applied to be considered in-state, even though I was in my late 20’s and had been independent of my parents for close to 10 years.</p>
<p>Honestly, with your grades and scores, it is very, very, very unlikely you would get accepted to Berkeley out-of-state.</p>
<p>UCSC is a more realistic option.</p>
<p>If you are OOS at a UC, the current cost of attendance is over $50,000 per year. Tuition and fees directly paid to the university are about $36,000 per year. The $50,000ish grand total includes living expenses (housing, food, misc). Yes, that is every year.</p>
<p>The $12,000 per year figure is tuition and fees only for an in-state resident. If this student is not commuting, they will have to add living expenses, too.</p>
<p>In California you are not considered in-state just because you attended school there the previous year. Other states may have different rules. If you are considering OOS public schools, be sure to check residency requirements at each campus. Sometimes rules vary by different campuses in the same state system.</p>
<p>OOS Santa Cruz would probably cost as much as Santa Clara</p>
<p>Here’s some helpful information about residency for the UC system:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.ucop.edu/ogc/documents/ten-things.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ucop.edu/ogc/documents/ten-things.pdf</a></p>
<p>LVKris, thank you for the link! It explains everything, and it is pretty disappointing…
Maybe I could go to a community college in California and transfer to UC later? I’ll definitely save money and will be able to establish residency after 2 years</p>
<p>harvard<em>and</em>berkeley, thank you for the response! And yes, with my grades NOW I have no chance to get inti UCB, but I’m going to a community college in Indiana to raise my GPA. </p>
<p>barrk123, yeah… Apparently the OOS and private university tuition will be the same…</p>
<p>Are you over 24 years old? Are you financially independent?</p>
<p>You cannot establish residency while studying. You would need to move to California, and work there without taking any classes for at least a year. Then you could apply to college there.</p>
<p>It probably would be more cost effective and efficient for you to finish college where you currently have residence. Then look for a job in California.</p>
<p>LVKris, no and no</p>
<p>happymomof1, but what if I go to a community college in California for 2 years while working and paying an out-of-state tuition, and then transfer to UC. Will I still have to pay OOS tuition for the UC I’ll transfer to 2 years later?</p>
<p>^^ Yes. Unless you are over 24 years old and have been self supporting and can prove it, you will still have to pay OOS tuition even after 2 years at a community college.</p>
<p>But what if I self-support and can prove it, but I am under 24 years old?</p>
<p>Even if you were over the age of 24 and fully self-supporting, MANY colleges and universities would not consider you in-state for tuition and fees if you moved there for the purpose of starting your college education. The OOS classification will normally follow a transferring student within the same state. In almost every case, a potential student needs to live, work, and pay taxes in a state for twelve months before enrolling as a student. One exception that I do know of is my local community college where only three months residence are required for in-state status.</p>
<p>I really want to live in California after I finish my college education there. If I transfer from a community college to a 4-year college and pay California taxes, I’ll have to pay OOS for the community college, but I’ll have to pay OOS even after transferring, 2 years later, right??
I’m fine with paying OOS for the community college, but not with OOS for my junior and senior years after transferring…</p>