<p>Ok this thought might be interesting, or it could just be me having an "Oh Shi*!" moment for myself lol...</p>
<p>This is not to offend anyone that applied as a CCC transfer to UC btw.</p>
<p>If you think about it UC to UC transfers' GPAs are more "solid," if you will, than those of CCC transfers. This is due to the fact that CCCs are on the semester system and all of the UCs except Berkeley and Merced are on the quarter system. Those at UCs are judged for 5, or so quarters (if you exclude summer and include Winter '10) whereas CCC transfers are judged for 3 (I'm not sure about this, someone correct me if I'm wrong) semesters of work. GPAs fluctuate with the amount of classes you take and obviously those on the quarter system have the opportunity to take more classes. My point is that the GPA you have at your UC has more weight to it. It's harder to maintain a high cumulative GPA at a UC thus. A counterargument could be that those at CCC don't have the opportunity to raise their GPA with extra classes if they aren't satisfied with their GPA, but again, I'm just throwing this thought out there. Either way, aside from the quarter vs. semester deal, it's harder to get a high GPA at UC anyways simply because there is more competition. </p>
<p>Good Luck to all Applicants!</p>
<p>wonderful analysis with great supporting facts and explicit details. a job well done, sandaboy. i wish i was as smart as u</p>
<p>you must mean </p>
<p>“due to the fact that CCCs are on the semester system”… except for all of the ones that are on the quarter system</p>
<p>I always wondered about this, but I still have to give that upper-hand to CC students. One thing, there are specialized programs for CC students that allow them to transfer over EASILY. As a UC-UC transfer applicant, I really think the TAG program is a joke. I’m not against the program, but the requirements are just way too easy. When I was a high school student, I always had trouble understanding how UCSD would accept students under this program when I had friends who got rejected as seniors with 4.3’s. I’m treading on thin water here (especially in this forum), but I really believe there is a big difference between a transfer student and one accepted from high school. Second, you got to figure out the whole “priority” deal as CC students usually get the first look for admissions. I also don’t think there’s really that big of a deal between quarter vs. semester. Not all CC’s are semester btw (De Anza + Foothill <3).</p>
<p>However, I do give HUGE credit to CC students who can land great ECs. It was easy to get a business internship while I attended a UC because large companies love recruiting here (even here in UCSC). I’ve been working with my managers this month on a second intern to join our team because I was the only intern in the department. Out of the first round of ~100 applications, only ~2 CC students out of about 50 made it to the second round. This highly contrasts with ~6 out of 30 CSU students and the 13 out of 20 UC/private kids. Keep in mind, everyone with less than a 3.3 has already been filtered out. Though we are still a highly ranked Fortune 500 company, we are no Google or Morgan Stanley (whose recruiting is way more difficult). When my brother attended CC a couple of yrs ago, he somehow got an internship at JP Morgan. He got into econ programs for both Berkeley and LA with a 3.4, so I have to believe that it was mostly due to his EC experience (which I would totally dig if I were an admissions officer). If I saw a UC-UC applicant and all I really saw was “volunteered at hospital,” then I’d kind of think that the person wasn’t really trying (if the person was an econ applicant).</p>
<p>haha thin water…</p>
<p>Anyway, I really don’t get why there’s even a potential for outrage if somebody says that, on an academic level only, getting into UCSD from a CCC isn’t much of an accomplishment. Of course, people in CCC tend to have a lot of stuff going on other than school but we’re talking on an academic basis only. This is nothing more than an observational guess but it seems like it is harder to get into UCR out of high school than it is to get into UCSD out of junior college. I remember hearing about the TAG requirements in high school and thinking that they were WAY too good to be true. </p>
<p>Btw, this is in no way a knock on anyone that got into UCSD and wants to go there. I secretly want to get rejected from UCLA/UCB just so I could go there.</p>
<p>edit: oh and I’m talking about non-engineering majors only because those seem like they’re a bit more complicated than just IGETC + 3.0</p>
<p>i dont get it. the reality is that community colleges get priority… i’m not really sure why you would spend 25k a year at a school you are planning on leaving asap.</p>
<p>TAG is kinda stupid. when i was in hs i only got into riverside and ucsb with a 3.3 while most of my close friends got in to davis and sd with 4.0s. now here i am with a 3.7 and im on the same level of davis TAG students who have a flat 3.0. they should have TAG around 3.5 to instill SOME competition. CC classes are a joke. i took an engineering class at berkeley over the summer and i still have trouble sitting down after Cal f’d me that hard. even though i got an A in the course, that one course was more difficult than my whole fall semester this year.</p>
<p>@andrew: i actually wish i went to ucsb out of hs instead of going to cc. i guess if money is an issue, then people should definitely go the CC route hands down. otherwise, i gotta go with the 4 year life (for only 2 years though…) :P</p>
<p>@ sandaboy: Just to make a quick tweak to your original post - it doesn’t generally take 4 semesters to transfer. You mentioned that generally the UC’s will have 3 semesters worth of grades. I can’t really attest to the accuracy of that statement.</p>
<p>For me, it took me 2.5 years. (4 semesters + 1 summer of grades). I really think it takes longer (generally) than a flat 2 years to transfer. Of course, there are 2 year transfers, and even some amazing students (even here on College Conf.) that are planning to transfer in one year…insane admiration for you guys btw.</p>
<p>However, generally it’s not fair to assume 3 semesters of grades is the general path for CCC’ers. </p>
<p>I do get your point though, and I would have to agree. It’s a little bit more easier for CCers (GPA-wise/TAG opportunities) than UC-UC transfers.</p>
<p>I understand the point about EC’s and all that and the connection to UC’s…esp for business/econ, but I don’t think that’s enough to compensate for an amazing agreement like TAG.</p>
<p>@ AirJordan64: Damn man, I’m taking 2 this semester albeit not engineering courses lol. Over summer I’m taking 2 psych courses at UCB. Was your course really that intense?</p>
<p>well it was an upper div civil engineering course… so i was basically asking for it. on our first exam, the professor had a cover sheet that said “i personally made this test and its out of 60 pts. i took it and only got 40. have a great weekend.”</p>
<p>i met this one CC girl who took a poli course and she said it was mostly just a LOT of reading and writing (but nothing too difficult).</p>
<p>LMAO great cover sheet. Wow, I hope I don’t end up with something crazy like that. That’s a pretty unique experience. Great job acing the class. I can’t wait for summer.</p>
<p>lol i loved the course and it was really interesting (well in a nerdy sense). i REALLY want to take more of those courses and god knows CC will ever give me that type of experience
BTW: midnightgolfer… i think i know who you are lol. tell me if you get a suprise in a little bit LOL</p>
<p>Dude, that was the creepiest facebook message I’ve gotten all year. Apparently you chance’d me awhile ago, hahaha.</p>
<p>You took courses at Cal this summer?</p>
<p>not only Berkeley and Merced have quarter system, Davis is quarter system as well</p>