<p>i have now completed a total of 36 UC transferable units. the requirement is a full 60 by the end of spring (for UCSB). i already applied. what's my question you ask??</p>
<p>---> for spring of '05 (im at a JC by the way.., 2nd year..) i will be taking a total of 21 units, in order to complete 60 by the end for spring. I have not had such a 'history', however, of taking this many. </p>
<p>SO, when they review my app, are they gonna be skeptical in terms of admitting me due to my 'drastic' units? I had 10 units my first semester, then 10 the next, now i took 14, and nex semster it will be 21.</p>
<p>my g.p.a. is not the problem the UCSB rep said, it's the units.</p>
<p>but if I do complete all those 60, do you most probably think i'll be in for Fall of '05?</p>
<p>they said I can always appeal if you do not get in and still have 60 done.</p>
<p>First, you said you've taken 36 units and you're going to take 21? 36+21 is 57 units (57 units is not 60, and the UC's are very strict about this requirement).</p>
<p>Second, you said, "I had 10 units my first semester, then 10 the next, now i took 14, and nex semster it will be 21." 10+10+14=34 units, not 36 units. This will have more of a negative impact: 34+21=55.</p>
<p>yeah i am taking winter intercession right before spring [forgot to tell you that..] which is 3 units, so i did not include this in my spring schedule. if you do include it, then you can see i will have obtained my full 60..</p>
<p>sorry i think my units for some of those last semesters are slightly off...but that is beside the point because rest assured i know for a fact i will have completed 60 units by spring of 05 [trust me, the ucsb rep already sat down and counted w/me], like i said, i might have miscounted 2 or so units in those last semesters...</p>
<p><em>gasp</em>! He didn't take them in a pretty, equal spacing! He didn't take 15 per... So we can't admit him. Sorry.</p>
<p>DENIED.</p>
<p>From the UCSB website:
"Complete 60 semester or 90 quarter units of transferable college credit with a grade point average of at least 2.4 for California residents and at least 2.8 for nonresidents (no more than 14 semester or 21 quarter units may be taken Pass/Not Pass)."</p>
<p>I'd say you'd be good... EXCEPT:
"Frequently, the number of applications exceeds the number of enrollment spaces available. When this occurs, selection criteria beyond the minimum admission requirements are used to determine admission status."</p>
<p>So, with no experience whatsoever and the first time looking at a UC website, I'd say if your GPA is 3.0+ and you're a california resident you're probably in.</p>
<p>I'd say your worst case scenario is them thinking you took an easy schedule first 3 semesters, and then taking an overworked schedule that wouldnt affect the GPA the admissions people are considering, so you could get 60. In that case, I suppose I have no idea what might happen. You could then get your appeal. But I think the biggest problem is that you're chilling on the absolute minimum, and that's not a good place to be.</p>
<p>nonono neostrife, my fair mate, you think i took minimum units, but let me tell you...</p>
<p>i changed my major, so i dropped a course, which brought down my units...</p>
<p>i also had a horrendous math teacher that first semster, so i had to drop it...</p>
<p>so i got 2 W's on my transcript.</p>
<p>THIS is a VERY IMPORTANT QUESSTION:</p>
<p>does UCSB wait for my fall of 04 grades to be posted, then also do they wait for spring of 05 grades as well? </p>
<p>somebody i spoke w/earlier too said the whole uc system of admissions is complicated...so i'm tryin to see if anyone knows the ropes and strings around it like second nature..</p>
<p>so you're sayin i'd be good?! oh golly! i can't wait! are you absolutely sure though? good that they'll take me when they review apps? or would i have to appeal? i mean if they see that i've successfully completed those 21 units in spring, and that i've fulfilled the 60, why would they care how I do it?</p>
<p>as long as i get it done, you know? plus i mean they don't expect EVERYONE to be on the same road now do they, I mean I had to drop some classes due to me changing my major, or I wasn't prepared, etc, </p>
<p>if you do indeed complete a total 60 semester units by the Spring '05 semester prior to Fall '05 enrollment (if admitted that is)...rest assure that you have passed the requirements. As neostrife said, with a 3.0+ you probably have a good chance transferring to UCSB. I would say anywhere from a 3.3-3.5 GPA that just sit back an relax, you got in. But then again, it all depends on your major and the amount of prerequisites you will complete by the end of Spring '05. If you major is impacted (meaning there is a high demand for it) then it will be more competitive to be admitted. Also, finishing a lot of prerequisites pertaining to your major will help you a great deal (go to assist.org to check for what prerequisites needs to be done). </p>
<p>As for your question concerning whether the UCSB's Admissions Committee looks at your Fall '04 grades, they do. They will include Fall '04 grades as a part of your GPA for consideration. Sometime in January they will send you what is called a "WIP Form" (Work in Progress Form) where you will update your grades that you earned in Fall '04. From what I hear you do this online, so you will probably recieve an email of some sort or something. If you are admitted to the campus, Spring '05 grades will not be in consideration for admitting you to the university, BUT if you do SLACK OFF in the end, they have the power to REVOKE your admission. The best thing to do is keep up your grades, better safe than sorry. </p>
<p>Neostrife does have a good point about the worst-case-scenario being that the Admissions Committee thinking that you had an easy college career your first 3 semesters and then decided to put all the hard work during your last semester when it will not be considered for admission. But I seriously doubt that will happen. If it does, that is seriously some BAD LUCK for you LOL, but hopefully that does not occur. Well, I hope this helped and best of luck to you!</p>
<p>"As neostrife said, with a 3.0+ you probably have a good chance transferring to UCSB."</p>
<p>---applemouth, as of now, with fall of 2004 grades posted, I have a 3.028 cumulative GPA. There are 2 W's on my transcript like i said earlier [withdrawl]. I put on my application my community service group, (circle K), as I am the Intercommunications Manager. I also put the award I received in H.S. in 2002, the "Golden State Examination Award - Demonstrated Outstanding Achievement in Written Composition with Recognition".</p>
<p>all I have to do now is to complete the full 60 by end of spring ( i have 36 uc units as of now, and i will have done 24 by the end of spring [i'm taking winter intercession this january, but this class will be THROWN IN as part of my "spring" schedule).</p>
<p>So These 24 units....If I succesfully pass all of them for spring, to complete that 60, am I IN?! you said they most probably won't hold this against me and accept me if I completed it by spring ?</p>
<p>ohh you have helped so much, just this last question will make me feel relieved.</p>
<p>applemouth could you answer that question please (or anyone) ? please read it carefully if you have time, cuz I need someone to deeply clarify this for me..</p>
<p>my major is Law and Society and BY THE END OF SPRING OF '05, I shall have completed taking the prerequisite courses for it. I'm not done with the prereqs yet, they are finished by the end of spring '05...'</p>
<p>I still stand by what I said agreeing with Neostrife....with a 3.0+ you probably have a good chance transferring to UCSB. So your 3.028 GPA should really be fine especially if your major is Law & Society (I have a friend with the same major and she says it is so interesting...so good luck with it and have fun with that!). If I am not mistaken, Law & Society at UCSB is not an impacted major so that should favor you in your case. If you were a Biological Sciences major or something along those lines, it would be way more competitive because from what I hear, many UCSB students major in sciences or like comp/sci. </p>
<p>Also, Your 2 W's should not hurt you, because UC Representatives say that students can have a few W's in their college career...so I doubt it will be held against you. </p>
<p>If you do complete 60 semester units by the end of Spring '05...you are fine. The UC's do not specify exactly HOW they want the units to be completed...just as long as you COMPLETE it. So if everything you've said is true...I think your good to go. If you do have some nice EC's/Awards as you already stated and perhaps a good/strong personal statement...it would be even better! Nonetheless, I would say you have a pretty good shot. </p>
<p>Well I do hope you get into UCSB...Law & Society should be really interesting. Plus, I have visited the campus and it is just beautiful there. You will have a great experience there, guaranteed. Good luck to you again!</p>
<p>you mentioned that you will finish all the prerequisites for your major Law & Society by Spring '05 correct? If so, finishing the prerequisites will increase your chances of being admitted to UCSB more. UC's base there admission on GPA and completion of prerequisites. They want to see how well you can handle college courses and that will tell them if you are ready to handle their program. So if you plan on completing all of it..if not MOST of it...you are in a good position I would say. EC/Awards and personal statements do count...but maybe not as heavily as GPA and completion of prerequisites.</p>
<p>I know this, when i transferd to a UC Santa cruz i did not have the full units by the spring of 05. I did by the summer, how ever. I do belive davis and santa cruz still do this. How ever i do not know about santa barbra</p>
<p>Hold on here applemouth, I don't think your info is correct. It is certainly possible to transfer to a UC with a 3.0, but it's hardly the soo in you think. With the budget crunch and increasing number of applicants, standards are going up every year. UCSB has been turning down many high GPA kids and a 3.0 is really iffy and a no go with many majors. The poster needs to apply to other UCs too and write an outstanding essay I think there's a web site that shows GPAs of admitted students. When my son transderred to UCSD last year and we saw the list of GPAs, they all seemed above 3.5. Good luck.</p>
<p>kirmum, you are right about about the current situation regarding budget cuts toward the public education. It is indeed increasingly harder to get into these universities. Simply passing the minimum requirements will not grant you admission right away. But from what I hear, the transfer GPA is a lot lower then the GPA needed if you were applying from high school as a freshman. But nonetheless, I agree that things are getting more difficult and standards are rising. But like I said, these UC's look mainly at GPA and the level of lower division major prerequisites courses that have been completed for your major to gain admission. Even though these budget cuts are hurting us, choice of major really can make a big difference in chances of being admitted. Certainly a prospective applicant applying as an ENGINEERING major will definitely have a much lower chance of being admitted to the university than a student applying as a HISTORY or ENGLISH major. Not that one major is better than the other...it is just because there is a higher demand for engineering. But like I said, 3.3-3.5 majoring in law&society and plans on completing all the prerequisites...you really do have a good chance of being admitted. Although a 3.0 is obviously lower, I still believe there is a chance for UCSB standards. If applying to UCD or UCSD, that would be another story. But you are definitely correct, It will only get harder trying to be admitted to the UC's. The best thing to really do for all of us is to do more than what is required and gain higher stats so we can be sure to enter the universities of our choice.</p>
<p>gee guys, thanks for all the correspondence...I really appreciate it..</p>
<p>The UCSB spokesperson [when our JC went there for an orientation] said that transfer applicants w/ a point averga of 2.8 are 'very much likely' to be admitted. Well my gpa now is 3.028 I think, so I know it may not be the problem...</p>
<p>it's just the UNITS ! You all know that the UC system requires 60 units done prior to transfer.....like I stated earlier, for each of my semesters at my JC I took 10 units - 14 units....but this is not including summer school or intercession [short winter classes before spring semester]. I currently have 36 UC units. My intercession class is 3, and starts January 3rd. So that will make it 39 UC units.</p>
<p>Well, for SPRING of 05, I AM taking 21 units.</p>
<p>And, as I said, since they will see my transcript and discover that I haven't had a history of taking this many units, are they going to be <em>skeptical</em> in terms of admission and assume that I won't be able to successfully complete all of them?</p>
<p>I have such a hard time believing a 2.8 or a 3.0 is likely to get in. i just caution you to not believe the units are the only issue. If you qualify for financial aid, be sure to research private school that meet your need. too.</p>