UCF Info

<p>Hi All, I have been a long time reader of this forum, but never posted. Sorry, my name is lame, but I picked it on a spur of the moment. I really should be “dancingmom”. I am still a little hesitant but will at Ericsmom’s encouragement to respond to the UCF thread. My D recently reauditioned and is transfering to Elon after realizing that UCF was not her perfect fit in MT. This is going to be a long story, so here goes:</p>

<p>My daughter decided on UCF over Elon last spring, at the urging of the director of a regional theater that uses Equity leads and college and post-college for ensemble. My daughter has performed there twice, once as Baby Louise in Gypsy and once in the ensemble of Funny Girl with Jodie Langel and Josh Walden. We both value his opinion and he said that UCF students did very well at auditions he had seen them at and that it would be a very hard and intense program. We’re not really sure why as I’m sure he has no affiliation with the school but it really convinced us that it was the place to be. So, that coupled with a couple of other random reasons such as school calendar and warm location (we’re from Syracuse), coupled with the fact that I am a native Floridian and have family in Miami, prompted us to have our D head to UCF. I might add that our daughter fretted over this decision all summer, that’s how much she had also loved the Elon program!</p>

<p>My daughter and I both loved Elon upon visiting and auditioning last February. Cathy McNeela seems to be very “hands on” with this program and my daughter likes that kind of contact having gone to small private high school with teachers that you can get close to. We should have gone with our gut feeling at that time but allowed ourselves to be swayed towards UCF. I am thrilled that our daughter is transferring there even if I have to eat a little crow! She is excited too and can’t wait to get there later this month!</p>

<p>The MT program at UCF seems to still be developing. While I think that in the coming years they will be able to build a strong program, I mean who wouldn’t want to go to school in sunny Orlando, but they aren’t quite there yet as we may have originally thought. The main drawback at this time is that there are no voice lessons in the freshman year. Second semester freshman year there is a group vocal course that apparently deals with anatomy and such. (I know nothing about voice, I run a dance studio!) My daughter, who started as a dancer, is a late bloomer and is a great belter, really wants to improve and gain confidence vocally in her head voice. She barely has 2 years of voice lessons with a more mature body so a year off without voice lessons is not a good thing for her or for many people I doubt. As it was, she went to reaudition at Elon without having any voice lessons for 4 months! She had no one to practice her music with so ended up singing to a CD of the song before going!</p>

<p>The other drawback for my daughter at UCF is related to dance. She has been dancing since before she was born…haha. She dances very well in ballet, jazz and tap but she wants to continue to improve and develop other styles of dance and choreography having grown up dancing at her mom’s studio (me ). UCF offers one dance class per semester starting with Ballet 1. She liked the instructor who she said was quite picky, and learned a few things differently that helped her. They do offer a dance minor at UCF which she was planning to pursue, had she stayed. UCF also offers an MT – MFA so many of those students are in the productions and I guess that does take spots away from undergrads, but they do a lot of shows at UCF. I don’t think that is necessarily bad but this past semester the head of the entire MT, who again, is very nice and always helpful, was over at Daytona Beach most of the time, where the MFA program is. There was not someone to mentor the underclassmen on a regular basis. That apparently has changed recently as there is an undergraduate head of MT now. I think they are trying to work out the kinks.</p>

<p>I should add that my daughter did like the classes she took which also included Survey of Theater, Intro to Acting and Music Theory. The instructors were all very nice and helpful. We have found everyone in the Theater Dept. to be very friendly and nice to the kids. The theater dept. is located just off the far end of the campus in a little business park….a bit of a nuisance but doable. Everyone there however, kept telling my daughter how intense the program. Weirdly enough, she did not find it to be so, though perhaps as you get more into it, it gets busier. Unless you are in a show or teching one, there seemed to be waaaay too much free time. My daughter got very much into having a good time, tanning by the pool, working out at the state-of-the-art gym, going out with non-theater friends that she met, shopping, etc and still managed to make Dean’s List!</p>

<p>I was impressed, however, at how understanding the dept. was when my daughter recently submitted her resignation. The new dept. head was very kind and wished her well. Another instructor emailed and actually asked her opinion about the voice thing and went so far as to acknowledge that perhaps they are losing kids because of the lack of voice training in the freshman year. We had originally thought it was only the first semester and didn’t realize it was the whole 1st year. Perhaps they will add freshman year voice in the near future. I would certainly ask about it if you are interested in UCF. </p>

<p>Regarding the comments about their productions being terrible and people walking out - my daughter went to each show and did not see any of that. She said the plays are pretty good there. Of course, like any school, they do some unusual stuff that maybe people that aren’t into different stuff might walk out on, who knows. She was not as impressed with the musical but maybe again, that is because of less voice and dance training in the program.</p>

<p>UCF is a BIG school also. My daughter did not get dorm housing because she got her acceptance kind of late. It was partly our fault, as we inadvertently forgot to send her transcripts but yes, it even seemed quite a while after that. I did think some of the offices seemed less than enthusiastic but not extremely so. At any rate, UCF has a large apt. complex across the street from the campus that they run with RA’s and programming. Though it was a little more inconvenient to get to and from campus via the shuttle, it was a great situation. She was in a 4 bedroom, 4 bathroom, (yes, private bathroom) apartment! Large living room, dining room, full kitchen and laundry room in it too!! Despite only finding out her 3 other roommates shortly before going down there, she made 2 friends of a lifetime, which made for teary goodbyes last month. UCF and Elon are so different in size, though both are attractive campuses in their own way. Our daughter thought she wanted the big campus and all that goes with it. She realized that it is full of distractions and she really wants the training. I think at Elon she will get the best of both. An absolutely beautiful campus and the training! We allowed her to choose UCF but I’m proud of her for realizing that it was not helping her as much as she would have liked and that Elon is what she should have chosen. She scheduled everything for it and flew up their on her own, not to mention packing up ALL her stuff at UCF and mailing it home – 10 HUGE boxes full during finals week! I was actually visiting with Ericsmom on the SU campus (live about 2 miles from it) when she got the call from Cathy McNeela!</p>

<p>UCF appears to be trying to spread their name so they will draw from a larger pool. I noticed on their website they are auditioning at Unifieds for the first time this year. I think any program will improve with having more students from more places to choose from. I think if you are interested in UCF, I would ask more questions about what they are adding to the program regarding voice and dance. I think you might find they will be making some changes; it just was not soon enough for our daughter. If you have other questions regarding UCF, feel free to email me.</p>

<p>Thank you so much for sharing this experience with us. Our S is considering UCF and had a great first visit (posted earlier)...but we were all concerned about the lack of voice classes. I appreciate you confirming this for us. (It is strange how the Music Dept does not work with the Theatre Dept.) Like you said, it will be our S's choice, and this information will be a valuable bit to consider if he is offered a position with them. Thank you!</p>

<p>I also want to thank you for coming here and posting in a very thoughtful way about your daughter's experience. I am sure it will benefit others who are researching this program and also just anyone who may have made the wrong choice for themselves and made the most of it and sought a new direction. I think it is great that your daughter is able to transfer and it is pretty exciting for her! Good luck to her and thanks again.
Susan</p>

<p>Showmom, Thanks so much for sharing your daughter's very own personal story! I think it helps so much for people to hear about situations such as this. Everyone should know that they do not have to stay for 4 years and do have other options if the first school one goes to does not work out. Elon seems to be a great choice for her, and we're so very happy for you both! I'm so glad it worked out in the end. There are probably tons of kids who get caught in the same boat with two good school choices and have a hard time choosing the best option. I agree with you that Cathy McNeela is a wonderful person and Elon is a beautiful campus, as I've shared on the Elon thread. I think Elon will offer her all the things she was looking for at UCF and didn't find. This was a great post!!! Thanks.</p>

<p>Elon really shows their professionalism as well, in their willingness to fully embrace those kids that have fiqured out that they need to make a change and in this case turned down their previous offer to attend. Very impressive in my book! I always found it a little disconcerting that the colleges ask who else you have applied to on the apps.
D also takes individual voice lessons with an adjunct faculty member at UCF, please PM me if you would like some additional feedback on this program. D was scheduled to audition there as well.</p>

<p>Has anyone who auditioned at UCF heard from them yet? I know their callbacks are Mar 11, but we haven't heard yes, no, maybe, anything from them yet and thought we would have heard something by now.</p>

<p>Last year I heard four days before the callbacks, which is really cutting it close, particularly when you have plane tickets to potentially buy, and it's spring break season...</p>

<p>My son received an acceptance into the MT program last week. He auditioned on Feb 25. I don't know anything about callbacks though.</p>

<p>LIsa, Congratulations to your son! Welcome to the forum. Let us know how his plans develop and where he chooses to attend. Very nice news!</p>

<p>Great news to hear!</p>

<p>Lissa77 - that's fantastic! Congratulations</p>

<p>Hi, Lisa,
I thought the last UCF audition was on February 18th?</p>

<p>You're right, it was on the 18th, all these days just run together.</p>