UChicago - Now a top recipient of Preppies?

As the admissions season hits full swing, I did a little unscientific research and uncovered a startling fact - Chicago is now one of the very top recipients of students from private, prep schools. Some data:

https://www.horacemann.org/uploaded/PDFs/Forms/2014_College_attended_List.pdf - Chicago is THE most popular college choice at the Horace Mann school in NYC (63 students from Horace Mann went on to Chicago in the past 5 years)

http://www.exeter.edu/documents/college_matriculation.pdf - Chicago is the fourth most popular top school (behind Columbia, Yale, and Harvard) for Exeter grads, with 25 grads heading to U of C in the past 3 years.

https://www.andover.edu/Academics/CollegeCounseling/Documents/PhillipsAcademySchoolProfile2015-2016.pdf - Chicago is the fourth most popular top school (just behind Harvard, Yale, and UPenn) for Andover grads, with 34 grads heading to U of C in the past 3 years.

http://www.ucls.uchicago.edu/data/files/gallery/ContentGallery/HS_Profile_1415_FINAL_online_version_923.pdf - 54 students in the past five years have gone from the U of C lab school to the College. (This is unsurprising, given the close connection between the two.)

http://www.hw.com/about/School-Profile/Matriculation - 40 students in the past five years have gone from the Harvard-Westlake school in LA to U of C. This is behind Stanford, USC, etc., but ahead of Yale and Princeton.

This caught me by surprise. Also, of note, Duke is nowhere near as popular as it used to be - 10-15 years ago, Duke and Chicago’s numbers would have been flipped.

For a long time, I think Chicago was a well-kept secret. The university - like most non-Ivy schools, one could argue - wasn’t a household name, and applicants were a self-selecting bunch, hence its high acceptance rate. Despite acceptance rates well above 30% until the late 2000s, the university had accolades that many universities would envy, and was well-known for its strength in Economics especially. Though it wasn’t a household name, you’d get more than a blank stare if you mentioned Chicago in a board meeting or a State Capitol.

http://www.uchicago.edu/about/accolades/22/

Now, with a new philosophy guiding the admissions department, the U of C has stepped up its promotional efforts, and the man on the street is probably more likely to know about the university now than he was 10 years ago. More to the point, the average student will be aware of Chicago, when the school wasn’t really on most applicants’ radar 10 years ago. Even so, I suspect there’s a ways to go before the university’s profile will resemble that of places like HYPS. To an extent, Chicago is still a well-kept secret - which may explain why prep school applicants make up a larger percentage of the applicant pool, and/or admitted students.

It’s not that surprising as a student - it’s visible. I personally know at least one person (and in most cases, more) from every school you mentioned.

HydeSnark,

To me, as an alum, its surprising because it suggests the changing composition in the class. When I was at Chicago, we had a fair number of students from these high schools (maybe a handful from each a year).

The numbers weren’t nearly what they are now, though. It’s probably the first time in history where Chicago was the top choice for Andover grads (as it was last year), or the top choice over the past five years at Horace Mann.

Does the school feel, well, more prep-centric?

About than 60 percent of students at Chicago Lab have parents that are employees at the university, so the high number of kids that stay on campus is not unexpected. UChicago has had a very proactive administration in terms of moving the school aggressively in the direction they want, and the targeting of high end private schools is a very logical direction for the school to go.

Sort of off the topic.

I am not very clear why top private colleges are still paying special interests to prep schools nowadays. Before the top private colleges wanted well-prepared high school students and prep schools provided that need. But the admission game has changed a lot for the past 10 or 20 years. There are way many well-prepared high school students for those top private colleges to choose and turn down (LOL).

I can understand there is a good and historic relationship between top private colleges and prep schools whose counselors can give their students a boost over ordinary high school students.

But what do top private colleges gain these days? Do they have way many qualified applicants? Do they want to diversify their student body (instead enroll a dozen freshmen from a single prep school)? Money? Reputation?

@Cue7 No, not really. Prep schools aren’t what they used to be, a lot of people who came here via fancy prep schools were not from the traditional prep school backgrounds and were there on a scholarship. Your dorm is a better predictor of stereotypical UChicago-ness than your high school.

And those who do come from “traditional” prep school backgrounds will be full pay.

Which are the preppy dorms at UChicago? Max P?

By concentration of representation for one private school, Forbes’ #1 ranked Trinity School, Chicago is second only to Kenyon among out-of-region colleges (minimum 5 TS matriculants, 2011-2015):

  1. Hamilton
  2. Yale
  3. Harvard
  4. Colgate
  5. Columbia
  6. Brown
  7. Kenyon
  8. Amherst
  9. Dartmouth
  10. Penn
  11. Wesleyan
  12. Bowdoin
  13. CHICAGO
  14. Pomona
  15. Middlebury
  16. Williams
  17. Duke
  18. Princeton
  19. Emory
  20. Cornell

@goingnutsmom There isn’t any preppy dorm

Oh, sorry. I thought that there was some suggestion that there was a preppy dorm ( relative to what UChicago may consider preppy).

My school is a big feeder to UChicago (“traditional” prep school, blazers and ties, rich and predominantly white) with ~50% acceptance rate to UChi. Last year 10% of the graduating class matriculated there, and I’m sure some of them are less qualified than say, a valedictorian from a nearby public school. However, most of the students’ families are ridiculously rich and influential, so UChicago definitely looks out for that.

Call me a cynic… I suspect that as UC has risen in the rankings, it has become more desirable for prep students, their parents, and the prep schools who like to say how many students they are sending to top schools. I think the prep school GCs have found it now worth their while to coach prep students to “crack” the UC admissions process.

I have seen more students from my kids top tier boarding school going UChicago (and Duke!) than 7-8 years ago. I chalk it up to two things: 1. Like @intparent mentioned above, UChicago has risen in the rankings and, with that, has seen its desirability increase and 2. in the ever increasing admissions landscape, it is increasingly difficult for graduates of the prep schools to get into the Ivies so they are very actively pursuing the colleges and universities one step down in prestige.

Not sure it is really a step down in prestige – it outranks Penn, Dartmouth, Brown, and Cornell these days.

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Chicago also happens to have the second highest standardized test scores in the country.

@intparent It is a common misconception that prep school GCs “coach” students to get into elite schools. They normally don’t do that. It is more like schools like UChicago are actively “recruiting” prep school students. We didn’t learn any “secrets” to admissions. We are more well prepared, yes, but nothing ridiculous like others picture us to be.

Guessing you get essay review – and essays are key for UC admission, with their own flavor and expectations.

That’s interesting. Wouldn’t “flavor” have to be generated by the applicant even under circumstances where the essay editing is near professional?