<p>Ah, you’ve chosen to look at primary care which is shunned by most US medical graduates because of low compensation.</p>
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<p>And it is a sad fact that primary care pays relatively worse, since primary care is often where the best detective skills and broadest base of knowledge are needed, in order to narrow down the unspecified patient complaint to something that can be explained and understood (and treated or referred to a specialist if applicable).</p>
<p>m2c</p>
<p>Based on studentdoc LSU-S takes OOS, maybe a slim chance. I am not optimistic for CA public either because too many CA residents applied.</p>
<p>Here are the revised list</p>
<p>CA residents GPA 3.5 MCAT 33 UChicago
EC: Published paper, full time research 3 mo.(U of C) Shadow, teach music</p>
<p>Public</p>
<p>UCI
UCD
LSU-S
UMO-Ken
U-Ken
All Taxes Public - Just for the hell of it</p>
<p>Private</p>
<p>Commonwealth
Loma Linda
Albany
GWU
Meharry
Marshall
NY Medical
Rush
Uniform
Creighton
Drexel
Howard
Morehouse</p>
<p>DO schools</p>
<p>Western
ACOM
Chicago</p>
<p>Better? AS noted, SLU and Loyola is -2.5 from studentdoc(is that too much of a reach?)</p>
<p>Here is how difficult for OOS student applying Public Medical school:</p>
<p>Special note for out-of-state applicants:
The University of Kansas is a state-supported institution that gives primary consideration to Kansas residents. As an out-of-state applicant, you should review the following paragraph to determine your interest in pursuing a position in the KU School of Medicine.</p>
<p>While we will only accept candidates who are academically qualified to meet the intellectual rigors of a medical career, our focus on out-of-state applicants is to select those who will contribute to the depth and breadth of backgrounds and life experiences of the entering class. We carefully consider those personal characteristics deemed necessary to develop into a highly competent and compassionate physician. We seek applicants who have a sound awareness of issues in medicine and who have demonstrated their commitment to serve others. For the 2013 entering class, KU received more than 2,900 applications for a class of 211. Of the 2,400 non-resident applicants, approximately 130 were interviewed, 35 accepted, and 15 matriculated.</p>
<p>m2c</p>
<p>You are right</p>
<p>Does the LSU School of Medicine in Shreveport accept international students? Students from other states?</p>
<p>No and No. Applicants must be US citizens or be a Permanent Resident and classified as residents of Louisiana for LSU tuition purposes at the time of registration.</p>
<p>"cbreeze wrote:
Ah, you’ve chosen to look at primary care which is shunned by most US medical graduates because of low compensation.
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<p>Well, Primary Care may be “low compensation” but the bottom line is that there aren’t enough residency spaces for all that want the highly-paid specialties. Those spots often only go to those who graduate at the top of their med school classes. So, more than half of the med school grads will have to go the “lower paid specialties” route. </p>
<p>Like many med schools, my son’s med school does not give grades. However, they are regularly told which Quartile they’re in. (they’re not told where they are within a particular quartile). This info is kind of a “heads up” to those who aspire to a highly-competitive residency. If a student is in the 3rd Quartile, s/he’s not likely going to get into a highly competitive residency. My son wants a highly competitive residency so he has maintained a top quartile ranking (so far…fingers-crossed)</p>
<p>The bottom line is that many/most doctors cannot “shun” primary care otherwise they won’t get a residency at all. </p>
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<p>What is her breakdown? Is it rather balanced? Is she sub-10 in any section?</p>
<p>It is a fact that many slots in primary care residencies remain unfilled. Many US medical students would like to do primary care, however the economics force them to select highly compensated residencies. They need to pay back debts and to save up enough money to buy a house and to provide for the family. You even said that your son wants a highly competitive (highly paid) residency. I pointed that out to ucbalumnus because that explains why there are so many FMGs in primary care in both Sutter and Kaiser. They fill the primary care vacancies and most medical groups need to hire a lot of primary care physicians.</p>
<p>I’ve been married to a physician for 38 years and have seen a lot of changes especially in the real world of the practice of medicine. Many of our physician friends’ children are going or have gone through the process in becoming new physicians and no one foresees any improvements in the bureaucracy doctors face everyday in their delivery of medical care.</p>
<p>"" Many US medical students would like to do primary care, however the economics force them to select highly compensated residencies. They need to pay back debts and to save up enough money to buy a house and to provide for the family. You even said that your son wants a highly competitive (highly paid) residency. “”"</p>
<p>Yes, my son wants that, that’s why he’s doing whatever he can to stay in that top Quartile. He knows that if he drops to a lower one, he can kiss his chances good-bye. </p>
<p>I think the reason why a number of Primary Care residencies go unfilled is because both so many hospitals are offering spots. I don’t know what level a hospital has to be to offer Primary Care residency spots, but so many hospitals can. </p>
<p>I am still learning a lot about the residency process since son isn’t yet at that point. But when you look at the numbers breakdown, there is a huge number of Primary Care spots. </p>
<p>Frankly, I’m not sure what are all the specialties that are considered to be “PC”? Family practice, OB/GYN, Peds, Internal Medicine? What else? </p>
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<p>That’s because we need a whole lot of primary care physicians but the govt’ recognized primary care is important but primary care physicians are not, if so, why set the reimbursement so much lower?
For example, if you go to a family physician to remove lesion from your skin vs a dermatologist, the dermatologist can charge you 3X for the same procedure. Why?? It’s in the coding in billing which is controlled by interest groups.
This is one of the reasons for our outrageous expenses in medical care.
I think we should have some incentives for doctors going into PC, like loan reduction or raise their billing rates on par with specialists performing an identical procedure.</p>
<p><a href=“New Law’s Demands on Doctors Have Many Seeking a Network - The New York Times”>http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/03/us/new-laws-demands-on-doctors-have-many-seeking-a-network.html</a></p>
<p>All our physician friends hope we will find good doctors who will accept Medicare patients when we need them.</p>
<p>ER docs are also considered primary care.</p>
<p>m2c</p>
<p>B10 P11 V12 =33 MCAT</p>
<p>To answer your question</p>
<p>Here is her student doc scores</p>
<p>Public</p>
<p>UCI -0.99
UCL -1.01
UCD +0.01
UMO-Ken +2.70
All Taxes Public - Just for the hell of it</p>
<p>Private</p>
<p>Commonwealth +2.64
Loma Linda +0.49
Albany -0.57
GWU +0.13
Meharry +4.68
Marshall -0.19
NY Medical +1.57
Rush -1.67
Uniform -0.07
Creighton -0.36
Drexel -1.51
Howard +2.05
Morehouse +0.93</p>
<p>DO schools</p>
<p>Western +3.82
ACOM +5.10
Chicago +5.50</p>
<p>AS you can see Rush would be a reach/high reach for her.</p>
<p>For all the UC’s UCD is the most probable, yet, a friend’s son w 3.8gpa 36 Mact got shot down on all UC’s</p>
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<p>Good…not a problem imbalance and nothing under 10</p>
<p>I just found out UMKC only had bs/md program with 125 students, so that is out as well.</p>
<p>M2C</p>
<p>Do you think my DD needs to put in some apps for Caribbean 3, maybe one of the best? Or should we do few more on the lower ranking DO schools?</p>
<p>well…i’ve been accepted to UIC for GPPA Medicine!, but now I have to decide, and it honestly sucks right now…how can i choose between my dream school and med school…</p>
<p>Kennedy, what are your choices and their respective costs?</p>
<p>UIC would be cheaper cause I would be commuting so I wouldn’t have to pay room and board, but UIC and UChicago haven’t sent me the final financial aid docs yet, so I’m not quite sure. but the estimates show that uchicago wouldn’t be that expensive either…so many things to consider…</p>
<p>UChicago is better than UIC even with the medicine program. If it’s affordable, go to Chicago.It’ll serve you better in the long run and will provide you with a better experience.</p>
<p>Thanks for your advice @MYOS1634 !</p>