<p>I got into Uchicago EA and it has been my dream school for a while but with a 60k pricetag and finacial aid out of the question I dont know if i consider it a possbility. Whereas at Rochester and Loyola I could go basically for free what with scholarships and NMF aid. I am still waiting to hear from Princeton but I doubt i will get in. Is an ivy caliber education worth up to 100k in debt (my parents can pay for a chunk of college)</p>
<p>Which Loyola?
(Chicago? New Orleans? MD?)
What major?
Without knowing more details, I’d recommend Rochester. </p>
<p>For families with EFCs that exceed the cost, in my opinion “an ivy caliber education” may be worth an extra $100K, but only if you can pay for it without greatly exceeding the student loan limits ($5500-$7500/year). If you can get into an Ivy (or comparable), then you should be able to find less expensive but still excellent alternatives. As you have.</p>
<p>don’t know anything about Loyola, but I go to Rochester and have a good friend that goes to Chicago (and is actually trying to transfer to UR, among other places)</p>
<p>100K of debt is a ridiculous amount, especially considering that in most departments the gap between UR and Chicago isn’t that big, and in some departments essentially negligible (natural and physical sciences). When I was applying to schools my absolute limit was 40K debt. </p>
<p>Especially if you plan on attending graduate school, UR seems like the obvious choice; UR has a great reputation among graduate schools and while UChicago might hold a significant prestige factor, in terms of actual education/reputation among graduate schools, there isn’t much of a difference. </p>
<p>I am an Applied Math and Economics double major. I am doing my humanities cluster in Arabic and will either extend that into a minor or use my extra electives to minor in ECE/create an interdisciplinary minor in SystemsE. If you have any questions about these departments (or other general questions about UR) feel free to PM me</p>
<p>The prestige difference between Uchicago and Rochester is very small, so I personally don’t think it would be worth it for you to take out significant loans to go to Chicago. All of the Loyola schools aren’t quite as prestigious as either Chicago or Rochester, but a free education shouldn’t be turned down just based on prestige alone. Have you visited Rochester?</p>
<p>The prestige difference between Chicago and Rochester is enormous. It’s the 100k disparity that makes this a challenging decision. If your parents can afford it, a Chicago education would be worth every penny. Don’t guilt yourself for wanting the best possible educational experience. Your parents owe it to you to let you be challenged adequately and be given a once in a lifetime opportunity to spend your most formative years in one of the best schools in the world if it doesn’t strain their budget too much.</p>
<p>The loyola is Loyola Chicago. I would be majoring in economics hopefully. And I have not visited Rochester yet but I am going hopefully easter weekend. Rochester keeps sweetening the deal by giving me the chance to apply for a 3000 dollar free to do whatever I want grant, which is nice because I want to go abroad. But if I went to UCHicago I would be a third gen legacy which is also kind of cool. Do you think I could squeeze money out of UChicago for legacy?</p>
<p>11th (Chicago) vs 15th (Rochester) graduate school political science rankings
1st (Chicago) vs 22nd (Rochester) graduate school economics rankings</p>
<p>UChicago Medical School ranked 12th for research and 48th for primary care
URochester Medical School ranked 32th for research and 16th for primary care</p>
<p>Looks like a pretty enormousssssss prestige difference to me. </p>
<p>UR also has top programs in physics(specifically geophysics and optics), BME, Math,linguistics, computer science, and Brain and Cognitive Science, but I didn’t feel like compiling all of the rankings.</p>
<p>In the humanities, Chicago does have an edge. But it is near impossible to justify going into 100K worth of debt if you plan on majoring in the humanities. If you want to go to law school, the school you go to doesn’t matter, all that does is your LSAT and GPA. If you want to go to graduate school in your field, then you’ll likely have to go into debt to get your PhD, won’t make a huge salary as an academic, and won’t want to pay off even more debt from your undergraduate years—and as long as you do well at UR, you can go anywhere for your graduate education.</p>
<p>To say the prestige difference is enormous is silly and wrong. I quickly searched your stats and had similar scores as you. You won’t be in bad company at UR; there are plenty of intelligent people all around here–it is a shame we don’t get the attention we deserve. At UChicago you might end up being surrounded by pretentious students that think being admitted puts them on some sort of pedestal (this is how my friend describes the school, and why he is trying to transfer).</p>
<p>While it might be difficult to turn down Chicago for economics, It won’t be a huge loss for you (Especially considering the Simon School is top 15 for finance). </p>
<p>Our professors our great, especially Rizzo and Landsburg for intro classes. I wouldn’t hesitate to shoot one of them and email to explain to them your dilemma. I don’t know Landsburg personally, but have heard alot of great things about him. I had Rizzo for principles of Econ, have him this semester for intermediate microecon, and will be TAing principles of econ with him next semester. He is one of the most brilliant men I have ever met and he will be sure to bring some light on the situation for you (his specialty was higher ed econ at cornell hahaha). He also almost always responds to emails within 24 hours.</p>
<p>You can look up professor emails here: </p>
<p><a href=“https://info.rochester.edu/FacultyStaffDirectory/Default.aspx#[/url]”>https://info.rochester.edu/FacultyStaffDirectory/Default.aspx#</a></p>
<p>UChicago is the better school and much more prestigious choice (contrary to what the posters here have claimed), but it’s not worth $100k and the the additional burden on your parents. At least, not for undergrad, especially if you’re planning on going to go to graduate school.</p>
<p>Might as well study hard at URochester and then shoot for a prestigious university for graduate school.</p>
<p>I never denied that Chicago wasnt the more prestigious school, I just didn’t think it was “enormous” and in no way could see someone going there over UR for 100K debt</p>
<p>Haha you guys are awesome. Special thanks to CollegeXC1993, I will be sure to email 1 if not both of the professors</p>
<p>UChicago is ranked #5 for undergraduate by U.S. News.
Rochester is ranked #35.</p>