***UCI Class of 2021 Applicants***

@bccjames: Your daughter cannot change her major until she is enrolled and starts attending UCI. She can ask her advisor during orientation but since she has been accepted in CHP, she might have more leeway.

Here is the CS change of major criteria:

Computer Science
Requirements Description
Cumulative UC GPA

Students must meet BOTH requirements:

Minimum of 2.7 GPA overall
Minimum GPA of 2.0 in the quarter immediately preceding the change of major
Course grades

Completion of the following courses:

ICS 31
ICS 32
One or more of Math 2A, Math 2B, ICS 6B, ICS 6D,
A minimum GPA of 2.7 and no grade less than a C in ALL courses taken from those listed above.

Other

Student with more than 90 units will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis and may not be admitted to the major.
Students must complete the change of major requirements with an average quarter GPA of 2.0 or higher at the time of application and be in good academic standing.
Students must complete all change of major requirements at the time of application.
Student performance in coursework taken toward intended major’s degree requirements will be factored into consideration during change of major review and may result in denial of admission into the major.

@socccer Most decisions will come out in March, regardless of major. Some were accepted early for CHP/Honors, which is likely what your friends were hearing back for. So don’t worry, few people are actually hearing decisions so far. :slight_smile:

Gumbymom, thanks for the information.

@socccer The students who have been receiving early notification of admission from UC Irvine are those in all majors who are top applicants, such as those eligible for honors or Regents. If you didn’t get a notification, then you may receive one later at the regular time when admission decisions are released. They are not released by major.

thanks guys. that’s odd though because my stats are better than theirs so idk why i wouldn’t be selected for honors
is it maybe because i just set up my portal a day or two ago? do colleges pay attention to that kind of stuff

@socccer what major did you declare? It sounds like they only accept a certain amount of CHP applicants in each major. Maybe you were higher than some in other majors but not as high as others in your major.

@lkg4answers i applied for physical sciences and undeclared. I dont know why i did that because i want a bio major so i have no idea why i did that. i applied to all other colleges with bio majors. really worrying me though because irvine wasnt my main choice and if i cant get accepted in here then i probably wont get accepted to my main choices

Anyone making a groupme or something?

@socccer Don’t worry. You just weren’t among the ones who were notified early. The great majority of those accepted will find out in March. So, at this point, you don’t know if Irvine accepted you or not. Also, as I’m sure you know, there are many cases of “inconsistency” in UC admissions, like when someone gets a Regents invite at Berkeley or UCLA but gets rejected from one of the less selective UCs.

I got the “you’ve been admitted” banner and the congratulations with a link to Campuswide Honors, so I’m assuming that means I got CHP. For the people that got Regents, what does your portal screen look like? How do you know you got Regents? Thanks!!

@socccer according to the letter we received, CHP enrolls approximately 300 of the 6400 first year students. That means that approximately 95% will receive their UCI acceptance in March.

@BunnyBlue College admissions in America is basically just a big scam, and is unbelievably flawed. Then again, how can you judge the future success of a student based on some irrelevant scores and activities??

@JuicyMango I’m not gonna say that college admissions in the US are free of flaws, but I think you’re painting an unecessarily grim picture. I’m saying this 100% free of sarcasm or malicious intent but how do you personally think admissions could be improved?

@kimisocali I helped a student check her UCI portal and saw that she had Regents as well as honors. Instead of having just the honors rectangle, she had a similar Regents rectangle with it, either just above or just below the honors rectangle. Both were under the word “Congratulations!”

You will soon get a letter from UCI as a backup that tells you explicitly that you got Regents and/or Campuswide Honors Program. Some have received their letters already.

@JuicyMango I really don’t see college admissions that way. I can understand how students might feel that way if they have a sense of which of their classmates should get admitted to certain colleges and it doesn’t happen. Or they load up on AP classes and activities, but still don’t get into their dream school. But as far as the criteria that are used by admissions, I think it makes sense.

The test scores indicate the capacity for learning and how much students have applied themselves. The activities indicate abilities and personal qualities that grades and test scores won’t reveal. Over my lifetime I have known people who were leaders and generous to others in high school who continued to lead and make life better for others on their college campuses, and continued to do the same through their careers as well. There really is consistency in many cases. One can’t always tell who is going to become accomplished, prominent, powerful or philanthropic, but I think it is still reasonable to use the information in the applications to make a guess at it. I guess the unfairness of it is that there are many more students who are completely qualified for the colleges they want to go to than there are spots available. And sometimes some not-so-qualified kids will get their places by mistake. And there is unfairness in a great scramble to get accepted when the cost is really too high for what you get. And there is unfairness when students are paying huge amounts of money to learn things that have no use (like delta-epsilon limit proofs!) And it does seem that students nowadays have to work an awful lot harder to get into college than they used to several decades ago.

I think that online education will continue to grow and may be something that will end up taking a lot of stress out of education and admissions. Since it will increase the availability of college classes and provide the same professors to everyone, it could remove the stress of getting accepted to a particular college. Since it is cheaper and doesn’t require living on a campus, it could remove the financial strain.

Hi all, current student at UC Irvine here who is part of the Campuswide Honors Program. I just want to help clear a few things up for everyone.

  1. CHP selects students based on a variety of criteria, not just test scores and GPA. They choose people based on who they think will likely succeed in their program. So yes this does mean good test scores and grades, however this also means good essays, extracurriculars, and so on. Some people with higher test scores may not get honors because they might be lacking a little something. Just know that if you get chosen to join CHP, the honors board of your school sees something in you. It’s quite an honor.

  2. When CHP says that the average incoming freshmen class will be 200 students, that does not mean they only accepted 200 students into CHP. At this point, many (more than 200 for sure) are accepted into CHP, but people will obviously decline the honor so the people who do end up joining CHP ends up being around 160-200. That’s what they mean by the incoming class size.

  3. If you’re confused whether you got into CHP or not, you should be receiving a letter in the mail soon if you did get accepted as an honors student.

  4. Benefits: priority enrollment (so nice!!!), guaranteed housing, lots of opportunities, among many other benefits

  5. Let me know if you have any questions, hope this clears stuff up!

@LindsayHarvard Well that’s just the point. It’s impossible to predict future success. And things like rich kids having their parents pay off the ad com and affirmative action make college admissions even more unfair.

Not every nobel prize recipient and fields medalist is from an ivy league or even “top school”, because some of them didn’t do so hot in high school.

@BunnyBlue I’m sorry, but I still don’t believe that you can predict the future success of a 17/18 year old. And a lot of people do activities solely for college, and quit later. That’s awesome that you know people who continued to be leaders.

And test scores, like everything else in our capitalist economy, is unfair because some people can afford tutors and study materials while others cannot.

As someone who scored high on the SAT, its absolute BS. It doesn’t measure anything. I wish it did, but it really means nothing. It just shows how much I prepared for the SAT, that’s it.

@JuicyMango SAT is highly correlated with IQ. That shows your potential for learning. You can think of prepping for SAT as being like pouring water into a pitcher. The size of your pitcher will determine how much water you can pour into it. So, yes, your SAT is important despite the fact that many people take prep courses for it. Your high SAT tells admissions that you have a greater chance of succeeding in classes that are more difficult than high school courses. They just need to know whether you are likely to put the needed hours of effort in, whether you will be a friendly and considerate roommate, and whether you are likely to participate in campus activities or take leadership positions in them.

@JuicyMango I mean it’s impossible to see the future, but in general SAT and GPA generally are good indicators of college if not life success, at least in the studies that have been done on it. And that’s generally what colleges care about.

Yeah there are a lot of kids who get study materials and tutors for the SAT, and it may seem unfair. But at the same time, they can’t pay the college board to give them a high score they still have to put in the hours and hours of study time. So while their score might not demonstrate raw intelligence, it does show committment. And it’s not like you can measure raw intelligence anyway. I didn’t score as high on the SAT as you did and had some study materials but at least in my case I think it is an indicator or some things: how well I prepared, how much I retained information from previous years, and how well I can take a test. Obviously some of those things won’t affect my future, but others might.

Legacy admissions are unfair in a lot of ways, but I do think that affermative action is a good thing in a lot of cases, especially when it’s based on income and not race, because it accounts for the lack of opportunities.

Also this may seem way out of line so feel free to ignore it, but do you think your view might be colored because your admissions aren’t going as well as you like? I have to admit that I may be biased because mine are going better than I anticipated.

@JuicyMango As for the issue of income and test scores, there is always a way to do things cheaper. My family is definitely lower income, but I still found free (or incredibly cheap) ways of studying. For the SAT, I used Khan Academy alone. I could have scored better if I dedicated more of my time to studying for the exam, and I still received a decent score using it in an irregular fashion.

When looking for AP exam/SAT Subject Test review books, I went through avenues that sold cheap used books as well as a website where I can swap old books for other used books for free. If I couldn’t find a useful/cheap enough one through either of those avenues, I just used the library. I live in the middle of nowhere but there’s still a decent amount of review books at my local library, so I’d imagine that an urban environment would have even more at their disposal.

In short, it’s still possible for lower income students to put in the effort to do well on the exams. It may be more difficult than having a tutor and brand new review books, but it’s still possible if you put your head to it.