<p>D was accepted to UCI and Cal Poly SLO Business Adminstration Major.</p>
<p>Anyone has any suggestion? </p>
<p>We went to Cal Poly last week and she likes the campus and environment very much. Most students seems very happy and relax there. Will go to Discover UCI next month.</p>
<p>Would like to hear the experience from current UCI Business major students.</p>
<p>I got accepted to both UCI and SLO and am also having difficulty choosing. I did hear that there are only 100 seats in the Irvine Business Administration major so if she got into that, I would say that it is a huge achievement. I personally like the SLO campus and know for a fact that they are the second best business school in the state. Irvine’s business program just started, but it will surely surpass SLO in some years. I really liked SLO and know that they have great recruitment and are ranked as one of the best job schools because they teach you hands on, and companies really love SLO.</p>
<p>The only situation in which I’d choose SLO over UCI is if I was choosing between engineering at both.</p>
<p>In this case, you guys should know that some of the top financial firms and consulting firms in the country have offices in Newport, Irvine and Costa Mesa, and many of them come to campus to recruit.</p>
<p>What sector of Business is your Daughter looking for in specifically?
If she’s interested in Accounting, I think UCI has something good going/growing for it. I’m not sure how SLO ranks in Accounting though.
As for everything else (marketing, general management), SLO might be a better option.</p>
<p>Accounting training is standardized based on GAAP accounting standards and practices. Since both programs are accredited, therefore, the quality of the education b/w UCI and Cal Poly would be comparable. </p>
<p>With that said, Cal Poly’s accounting department is well known. All of the Big 4 accounting firms recruit there, and CP’s career placement has been very successful.</p>
<p>On a university wide level, Cal Poly has the highest starting salary of all CA public universities, beating even Cal and UCLA. It has the third highest mid-career salary of all public universities in the US, only behind Cal, and UVA.</p>
<p>I do agree UCI is superior than CP in biological sciences, and liberal arts. However, I am not as certain UCI undergraduate b-school will overtake Cal Poly. After all, UCI undergraduate engineering never overtook Cal Poly, and even Cal’s undergraduate college of architecture never managed to overtake CP.</p>
<p>The high earnings are entirely because of it’s engineering programs, which are admittedly really good. I know from first hand experience that all the Big 4 recruit at UCI as well.</p>
<p>If engineering is the reason why salary is high in Cal Poly, then how come SJSU, CP Pomona, can’t beat the rest of the mid-tier UCs or Cal/UCLA? </p>
<p>Then how come LACs like Pomona or Amherst has higher earning power than all UCs? By your logic, any schools with small or no engineering program should have lower earning power.</p>
<p>Cal’s engineering school is larger than Stanford’s, then how come Cal’s earning power is substantially lower than Stanford ?</p>
<p>Your logic is reasonable at first glance, but it does not explain these obvious counter examples.</p>
<p>My only concern for the UCI program is too new. It hasn’t have any graduates yet.</p>
<p>Wondering if any other related UCI graduates like business econ. received good recruitments.</p>
<p>And UCI doesn’t have too many options for concentrations. Any current students can share your experiences of the program? How is the chance for internship?</p>
<p>Also I believe all business students want to come out to work after graduation while UCI is more like a research university, but Cal Poly emphasizes on learn by doing. Will this give advantage to Cal Poly graduates?</p>
<p>i was rejected from UCI but accepted to cal poly as a business major…
and was wondering if i should go to cal poly OR go to community college and transfer to UCI :/</p>
<p>After 2 years we should be able to see the 1st class graduates job placements stat. from UCI. By then you may want to transf., but I heard the transf. rate is extremely difficult.</p>
<p>To other posters about Cal poly grad. salaries, graduates from business is not typically higher than other schools when I checked their graduate status report. And the no. of graduates from UCI is much less than Cal Poly, will this help them easier to find jobs especially in OC?</p>
<p>UCI and Cal Poly on a whole are comparable in educational quality. So you can’t really be too wrong choosing either. Both are fine universities. </p>
<p>One possible difference is that Cal Poly invest heavily in its career service department, and is fanatical in securing internships, Co-ops and jobs for its students/graduates. And this has been reflected in Cal Poly’s highly successful career placement track record.</p>
<p>UCI is a smaller business school with less graduates. But ultimately, UCI business school graduates will directly compete for jobs against all other undergraduate business school graduates, including Cal Poly/Santa Clara U/Cal’s Haas. Hence, the lesser grad quantity will not be an advantage. In fact, the lack of scale might impede recruitment because there is a fixed cost for companies to recruiting at each school, and the ability to choose from a larger number of candidates at each school might be preferable.</p>
<p>Actually, I can easily explain your counter examples.</p>
<p>Because the engineering programs at those schools (SJSU, CP Pomona) are not even close to SLO’s. SLO has an incredible number of top companies come to campus and recruit.</p>
<p>Pomona, Amherst (and other top LACs), as well as stanford are filled with people who graduate and work in financial jobs like ibanking and consulting, which are famous for having very high salaries. It’s very difficult to get these jobs unless you come from a very prestigious undergrad like Amherst or Stanford.</p>
<p>Picking a college is tough - lots of things to consider but ultimately, I agree with previous posts that you’ll get a good education at both UCI and Cal Poly SLO. </p>
<p>My S attends Cal Poly and loves it, we appreciate how cost effective it is. He also has a friend in the business program, and many of them finish in less than four years - or have time for minors. We got the following from the school that summarizes some of their successes.</p>
<p>I was accepted to SLO for Business and Irvine (+Honors) for Business Information Management (accepts ~40 people), but ultimately chose Cal. However, I really considered the other schools and looked into everything. It also comes down to campus, social life (I know people who dislike SLO, but others who love it), and as stated above, what field of business. I also considered the factors of how rigorous one program was compared to another and what “extra” time I would have to do other activities. Good luck!</p>
<p>Oh and also, don’t consider transferring to Irvine as a Business major. Unless things changed from last year, they accept very few people (7-10% I think? Not sure on exact amount). Like if you were on the fence, I would <em>assume</em> it’s easier to transfer from Irvine to SLO than the other way around (if the choice made was incorrect) b/c # of transfers accepted is higher.</p>
<p>Can you share how the school prepare you to find jobs after you graduate?</p>
<p>How is the internship prgram, how adequate is the department career center since it is relatively new.</p>
<p>In Cal Poly, all teachers are professors and have plenty of office hours available. How is the situation in UCI since it is a research school. Do the professors need to commit some time in the MBA program as well? Do you feel you receive enough help academically and job placement?</p>
<p>@Keepchow: I fell in love with Cal, but if only it could be that simple. I understand the difficulty in getting into Haas and everything that comes along with it. I admit that I took a risk, but I am in the current mindset that I am capable of getting in and I will work as hard as I can to get where I want to be. I talked to a lot of people - President of Haas Alumni Club, Haas students, current students who just applied to Haas that year or were about to apply, Haas professors, parents, friends, teachers, counselors. I got a really good understanding of what it takes to get into Haas and what would happen if or if not I would get in. I also had a super long talk with my parents, who did not want me to attend, on what the future would be if I didn’t get in and what my back-up plan would be (switch majors or transfer out), etc. So I guess you could say I took all these risks in account for and visiting the school for the second time was when I knew. (I had one of those sappy college moments of THIS IS THE COLLEGE I’M SUPPOSED TO BE AT).</p>
<p>Good luck to your D in making a decision. Feel free to message me if you need info on UCI or SLO - they were my other choices that I heavily debated on.</p>
<p>A friend of my who graduated from Cal got a job as an investment banker, and my other friend who graduated from UCI got the same job with him in the same place (In Los Angeles). Both majored in Economics and both says you barely used the stuff you learned for 4-years at a university. So, be prepared to study your ass off and learn the topic for something you are not going to use. </p>
<p>Investment banking is all people skills, watching the market/news/events, salesperson skills, and money smarts. All business transaction is mostly made through people skills, if the person likes you then they will want to do business with you.</p>
<p>As businessman with 30 years experience, I can tell you that graduating from a school with a deep alumni network is VERY beneficial. Most of the best business opportunities I have had, including my current career as an international insurance, financial planning and transnational estate planning specialist, came as a result of an introduction from a fellow graduate somewhere along the line. Yes, it can be exciting to be part of the first couple of graduating classes of a school and UCI also has been around a while for other majors. But, nothing substitutes for a personal introduction from a fellow alumnus that gives you an inside track. Having a good network is vitally important for all majors. However, for business majors in particular, it is my experience that a powerful alumni network is critically important. My alumni network has provided hundreds of thousands of dollars of leads over the years and career changing opportunities that I would never have imagined. In fact, I remember one year when I was much younger, I was blindsided with a pink slip. I was a new father, had just graduated a couple of years before, had little in the bank and was paying back crushing student loans. I got on the phone and hooked into my alumni network. Within two weeks I had a better job, with higher pay, doing more exciting things. That job eventually ended up with me running my own consulting practice inside Deloitte & Touche making four times the pay of the job I had lost. Look into the alumni network!!</p>