<p>Hey I'm an incoming student at UCLA this coming fall and I'm interested in joining an Asian frat or maybe a regular frat if they take asian people. I know that I will have a lot of time to check out the Asian frats this fall but if any of you can share information about them now that would be very nice. Are the asian frats worth joining for those of you in them. Do you meet lots of new people this way and of course lots of girls. How much do I have to pay to be apart of these asian frat in general? Feel free to share anything else you know about frats. I'm sure there are a lot of other students here on this forum interested about the frats too. Thanks a lot.</p>
<p>Also how hard is it to receive a bid. Like does anyone know the percentage of rushees that get bids? And which asian frat do you think is better Lambda Phi Epsilon or Omega Sigma Tau.</p>
<p>Rushing the Greek and Asian frats can be totally different experiences. I’m not part of a frat, but I do know frat people from both types.</p>
<p>With that said, the thing about Asian frats at UCLA is that they aren’t in the official “Hellenic council”. Therefore they are not subject to the rules and regulations that regular frats abide by…which makes the the rushing more intense. Both Lambda and Omega are known for the hazing: they say it weeds out the toughest and builds comradeship with your fellow rushees. The Asian frats are definitely more intense to their pledges than the regular ones.</p>
<p>Of course, you do meet new people and girls (the little sis’s) , but if you’re social you won’t have any problem with that at UCLA. Rushing does take a lot of your time, and your fall quarter you want to be in your dorm meeting people. IMO, i think you should get a feel for UCLA life first, and you’ll know whether you want to join by your winter/spring quarter.</p>
<p>On a side note, there’s a third Asian frat called Zeta Phi Rho which is supposed to be better about hazing</p>
<p>^Actually, from what I’ve heard from collegeACB (which is swarming with frat and sorority students), Omega Sigma Tau has the least intensive hazing of all the Asian fraternities. I would link you to one of the threads on the website but its swarming with viruses so I only visit it on my smartphone, which has no convenient internet access at this moment.</p>
<p>Zeta Phi Rho isn’t officially any “Asian frat”; it’s technically considered to be a multicultrual fraternity. I would recommend checking out their info night at the very least, and see how you feel about their organization and the guys.</p>
<p>the frat scene (especially the asian ones) are super-duper cliquey. Just warning you…</p>
<p>Really, is the hazing that bad? I thought hazing wasn’t allowed whatsoever in any frat regardless of whether or not its part of the hellenic council. Anyway, is it possible for an asian to get into one of the hellenic frats? And also does anyone know what the dues are for the asian frats and other frats. </p>
<p>Thank you all for replying. I really appreciate the help.</p>
<p>Here is a link to one of the collegeACB threads discussing the Omegas (assuming you didn’t find it already).</p>
<p>collegeacb.com/sb.php?school=ucla&page=thread&id=59002&p=1</p>
<p>WARNING: This site may carry viruses</p>
<p>that was one of the best things i have ever read.</p>
<p>Woof woof randy chang</p>
<p>i agreet with zzzboy. most hilarious thing ever hahaha ohhh randy chang.</p>
<p>anyway, pledging is a serious committment. i suggest you should do it during the winter because they’re always recruiting every quarter since they never get that many people to pledge. you should make friends with the people on your floor and have as much fun in the fall because one you start pledging, you isolate yourself. your pledge bros will eventually be the one of the few friends you’ll have since you spend so much time with them.</p>
<p>beware of the hardcore hazing that occurs. both lambdas and omegas don’t get a good rap in general. zetas is a multicultural frat but it’s definately largely philipino based. once you’re in the asian greek system you’ll know a lot of other asians, especially the sister sorities and lil sis’. it’s just that you’ll only get to meet asian people, which kind of sucks when there’s so many more diverse cultures on campus. you have your asian circle and that’s it. </p>
<p>in all honesty, there are quite a number of asian people in pan-hellenic frats. the whole greek system is pretty small on campus when you think about it. maybe 13% of 55,000 people are part of it. they just group together so it seems like a bigger number than it actually is. i prefer pan-hellenic frats just because they have more rules so you are more protected from hazing. most have houses and have been established for a long time in the off chance you want to use frats for connections and stuff (more recognized nationally because there are so many chapters and a diverse group of people) </p>
<p>asian frats don’t have a house like a typical frat does. i think lambdas have an entire floor of apartments that they own for the frat. all i know is that since there are so little people they need as many bros to move in just to keep the place running. since they lack houses, the pledge fees for asian frats are more cheaper than greek frats.</p>
<p>and it’s EASY to get a bid from both frats. they want more people so they’ll give it out to anyone. anyone rushing for lambda will get a bid. it’s just the pledging process that will be hard because of the hazing and people dropping out.</p>
<p>all i know is that be prepared to shave off all of your hair. every asian frat, including zetas, at one point during pledging will shave their heads. i laugh every time i see a mass group of bald asians walking around. it’s too funny. </p>
<p>personally i wouldn’t suggest you join one. if you know how to make friends and join several clubs then you’ll get the connections and friendships you would want. if you are lazy and would prefer to meet a group of asian people in one sitting and have events planned out for you (parties, formals, etc) then i guess join one. but you’ll be basically paying to make friends and going out. brotherhoods exist outside of frats too if you actually try.</p>
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Just to clarify: this may have been true about 2-3 years ago, but less than 30-40% of the new actives are filipino (the last 6 classes who have crossed). They’re definitely still more Asian than “multi-cultural” but just helping to dispel the stereotype.</p>
<p>Can anyone shed some more light on the hazing situation for asian fraternities? Like what are some things that the brothers make the pledgees do. And how hard is it for an asian to get a bid in a hellenic fraternity? Thanks alot guys.</p>
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<p>I don’t know what they do, but my son has told me how traumitized one of his friends was who was pledging an Asian frat. He found his friend literally curled up in a ball and trembling from the trauma he had endured. His friend wouldn’t tell him what had happened to leave him in such bad shape.</p>
<p>This may be just a rumor, but I heard (from a roommate) that the guys would have to do pushups on glass… but of course, if that were true, then we’d see a bunch of disfigured Asians who can’t do work for their math and science classes. Highly unlikely. </p>
<p>Anyways, I do hear that the hazing is pretty bad in the non-Panhellenic groups. I just don’t know the specifics, because pledges are not supposed to reveal what happens during pledge (supposedly).</p>
<p>Yea, pledges aren’t allowed to say what they do during pledging.</p>
<p>Lets just say someone I know who rushed an asian frat had his knuckles completely bandaged up during pledging…</p>
<p>On the hellenic fraternities, there are Asian guys in the frat houses, but they are definitely the minority. Like uninfatuated said, you should probably spend your fall quarter meeting people /joining clubs and by your winter and spring quarter, you’ll have a better idea of what you want and where you want to rush (you don’t have to rush freshman year).</p>
<p>So I’m guessing the hazing process is very harsh physically? Do they make there pledge do drugs and stuff (I don’t mean alcohol).</p>
<p>Wow I just found this. I’m guessing the pledge process at ucla is similar. Pretty insane.</p>
<p>[The</a> Daily Northwestern - Hazed: A Greek Tragedy](<a href=“http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/2.13901/hazed-a-greek-tragedy-1.1920997]The”>http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/2.13901/hazed-a-greek-tragedy-1.1920997)</p>
<p>Are you sure you want to join an Asian frat?</p>
<p>[Three</a> UCLA students arrested after fight last month at fraternity party - Los Angeles Times](<a href=“http://articles.latimes.com/2009/oct/03/local/me-ucla-stabbing3]Three”>Three UCLA students arrested after fight last month at fraternity party)</p>