<p>i really like LA's environment, but it seems that usc would offer more in terms of a business program, connections, and support both before and after graduation. Also, can someone who's currently taking bizecon at LA tell me this...do you find it boring? I'm really not sure that i want spend my next four years studying economics...</p>
<p>i go to the USC business program, and i probably would have chosen that given the choice between it and UCLA's biz econ, but thats more of a personal decision on my part, as i would love to live on the west side (and may even do that eventually before i graduate).</p>
<p>you're required to take 2 or 3 econ classes as a business major at USC and i found them to be a bit boring and inpractical for what i want to do.</p>
<p>I did BizEcon a few years ago. If you dont like econ, I would suggest shooting for BizAdmin. The job prospects are virtually identical for each so the you would have to base it on personal choice. BizEcon is more quantitative and analytical. BizAdmin gives you more depth as far as classes such as human resources and organizational psychology type stuff. Even though BizEcon doesnt have as many econ courses as a traditional econ program, if you dont like econ I would not suggest it. Then again, like spincut said, you still have to take econ courses at USC.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>yes you do have to take econ courses in the business but only a couple (one's actually considered more of a business course), and actually the job prospects for econ and business are not the same, thats the tricky part.</p>
<p>one of the first thing you learn in introductory micro/macro economics is that they are not the same as business, nor are the job oppurtunities. You "may" be able to get some of the same jobs but the skills earned through economics are definetly along a different path than business administration and the various emphasis it entails.</p>
<p>it sucks because it's a hard choice to make before you actually take some econ (so i was releived after taking it and subsquently not wanting to major in it).</p>
<p>spincut,</p>
<p>The recruitment for both schools are almost the exact same. I went to both schools and participated in both recruitments. The prospects are almost no different (in fact, I would say that more people come to UCLA to recruit BizEcon students than the other way around but the difference is negligible). I was not talking about econ vs business; I was talking about USC's BizAdmin vs UCLA's BizEcon. Many econ students at UCLA complain that too many companies only want BizEcon students. At USC, as an econ student you are not even allowed to submit your resume to certain companies. </p>
<p>After campus recruiting, the degrees become even more substitutable. In the real world people are not disqualified from a postition because they have an econ degree instead of a business degree. Again, I probably have more experience in that department as well.</p>
<p>Business Economics at UCLA and Business Administration at USC are almost perfect substitutes as far as the Los Angeles job market is concerned. If anyone does not believe this then that is his problem.</p>
<p>not beleiving you is nobodys "problem" at all, i dont know why people always have to say that.</p>
<p>the point being that economics does prepare you for a different career path, thats all. it may be different because it's buis/econ but economics is not fully substitutable for business.</p>
<p>To weigh in here, business admin has more of a business/real-world/applicable focus than UCLA's business economics. However, the quality of UCLA bizecon students students is so high as they must apply to get into the popular major, that as shyboy said, every company who comes to USC to recruit will also go there for bizecon students.</p>
<p>There are some competitive drawbacks to each program that one should take not of, though. BizEcon at UCLA is notoriously difficult to get into. What's commonly considered to be the make-or-break class, Econ 11 if memory serves, necessitates an A or A- to have a viable shot at admission. </p>
<p>USC Marshall had a similar apply to the major policy, but for some reason revoked it last year. However, Marshall still self-screens its students via the Marshall, "B-" curve. Several times I've scored in the uncurved A range on a quiz, but once readjusted did not end up with an A. You can bet I walked out of class praising that policy.</p>
<p>To some things up, I faced a similar decision a few years ago. In my mind, and in in reality, they were equal. I just felt better at USC and factored in the alumni connections of the Trojan Network (my summer internship is thanks to connections) and ended up there. Either way, you can't go wrong.</p>
<p>since i came in as a buis. honors student i have never really followed the admissions policy for the program itself but i had heard earlier on that getting in was difficult and you had to do well for a while, i had not heard that they changed their policy toward that, and with the influx of applicants i'm surprised they did (or maybe that is a symptom of the change).</p>
<p>i have an idea though, seeing as both programs do well for you (albeit i still would not even want an econ component to my education a full business one would be more useful for me).</p>
<p>Look at a sample of business emphasies, say from USC (since they offer alot) or anywhere else. If one or more really interests you then perhaps you should take the business administration route that USC or elsewhere offers.</p>
<p>if though you are very unsure of what you want to do and dont think it will come clear even as you progress UCLA's program may be for you, but mind you, as others have said, it has a high barrier of entry (but alot of business and B.S. styled programs so that may not be something to defer you to elsewhere).</p>
<p>Thanks for all your input! </p>
<p>spincut, since you're a current student at SC, i'm direction these questions at you...i was wondering whether you know anyone in the business/cinema-television joint program? if so, can you tell me more about what it's like and if it's worth it to choose SC over LA based on that program? also, i heard the grading curve at marshall is horrible...how does that work? finally, do people double major with a business degree? or is that very difficult to do?</p>
<p>"the point being that economics does prepare you for a different career path, thats all. it may be different because it's buis/econ but economics is not fully substitutable for business."</p>
<p>false. it is your decision that puts you on a certain path in life. Not your major.</p>
<p>My career path was such that after graduating from UCLA with Biz econ in 2001: financial analyst -> associate consultant -> journalist (!) -> private education teacher -> an entrepreneur of private academy.</p>
<p>biz econ helped me to get the first job out of college. But after that, it was all my decisions and my preferances.</p>
<p>Your major will not determine your career path. At best, it will help you to land the first job.</p>