<p>I know that Berkeley has a better program for business, but UCLA just feels right to me. College is 4 years of my life and I want to enjoy it, so because of that, I am strongly leaning toward UCLA. So what I want to know is, am I killing my future in business by going to a school that does not have as strong of a program as Berkeley? How different are the two majors? I know that at UCLA, they said most people in business econ go on to be accountants, and Berkeley's program seems to send people to all sorts of jobs. However, as of now, I want to be accountant, so this is not really a big deal to me. What would you do in my situation and WHY?? </p>
<p>Berkeley's Business Admin degress is under Haas.
Kids apply to Haas at the end of their sophomore year.
Of the UC Berkeley kids who apply to Haas for Business Admin, only about half or less actually get accepted to Haas.
So just because you got accepted into UC Berkeley, doesn't automatically mean you're going to be able to do Business Admin at Haas because it's highly competitive (in top 10 in country for undergrad business programs).</p>
<p>If you simply want to be an accountant, go to UCLA. But if you have the aptitude and drive to get into Haas, you will have a lot more opportunities, not just for accounting, but for financial analysts, banking, other business jobs, etc etc</p>
<p>The 40 years of your life after college will have so many unexpected wrinkles and changes that you might as well go where you will get the best four years you can now, including education, and be adaptable for the future. </p>
<p>Either choice will be fine. However, if you're drawn to UCLA, then go without a second thought.</p>
<p>not to go off topic here. but i have similar situation as well. its not about choosing business program between UCLA and Cal, but rather about engineering. i know that berkeley engineering is better than ucla but i also like UCLA better than Cal. so should i go for UCLA as well? i know i shouldnt really be asking this here on UCLA board but. =</p>
<p>err so if i do LA im more likely to become an accountant... err thats not wut i want to do... i have the drive, in my opinion, that haas students have but i want to go to LA closer to home n friends.... ahhhh</p>
<p>uclaclassof2009, no undergraduate degree ANYWHERE will get you a 90,000 starting salary. the avg salary of a MBA out of the top business schools such as stern,wharton,ross,haas,sloan,etc... will get u an avg starting salary of around that. (not including bonus of course, hehe)</p>
<p>Why don't you call up admissions at UCLA and UCB or get in touch with some current students or some of the professors you would be working with and just ask what the program is like and how most of their graduates are doing? They typically do keep track and when I've asked similar questions they've always been perfectly willing to talk to me.</p>
<p>anyone know the avg. salary out of biz econ? I hear Berkeley is up to $90,000...that's pretty tempting LOL"</p>
<p>Out of Berkeley, you'd be lucky to get 55k plus a 15k signing bonus. LUCKY. This is by no means an insult; rather, this is a realistic number assuming you did well enough in college to attain this kind of offer. No one makes that kind of money out of undergrad. Actuaries, arguably the most lucrative post undergrad job, only start at ~60k. And that's assuming you were fortunate enough to find a school which offers actuarial science. </p>
<p>Take a look at Berk's career center website (someone posted the link above) that shows average starting salaries. And also realize the dropoff to UCLA's BizEcon is insignificant and small. BizEcon is a good program and will serve you well. If BizEcon grads can compete directly against USC Marshall grads (another top 10 program), what does that say about the quality of the major?</p>
<p>"So just because you got accepted into UC Berkeley, doesn't automatically mean you're going to be able to do Business Admin at Haas because it's highly competitive (in top 10 in country for undergrad business programs)."</p>
<p>So just because you got accepted into UCLA doesn't automatically mean you're going to be able to do BizEcon. If you don't do well in those prereq's like Econ 11, and don't make the cut... realistically speaking, your job offers will likely be the scraps leftover after Marshall/BizEconers have been recruited. Whichever program you choose will be ultracompetitive. So you might as well choose the one you think you fit in.</p>
<p>themegastud, I agree with most of your points above. </p>
<p>However, I need to add my 2 cents to your outstanding points.</p>
<p>There is a vast number of opportunities for both Berkeley and ucla students (also usc students as well) to make handsome salary. by no means, the monetary compensation is all that matters, but the reality is that the todays job market in LA and Bay Area is so developed that many, many students fresh out of undergraduate WILL make over 80, 85 K (including the end of year bonus, which is typically 50~70% of your basic salary).</p>
<p>You are right. most students will not receive such a great compensation. but the matter of fact is that many, many students will make the figure.</p>
<p>So the whole point?</p>
<p>If you are staying in California, picking any one of the three schools will just do fine. Really!</p>
<p>So just go to any school that suits the best in terms of socialcultural vibe.</p>
<p>by the way, "realistically speaking, your job offers will likely be the scraps leftover after Marshall/BizEconers have been recruited."</p>
<p>I missed this point :)</p>
<p>I dont have to argue further to let you know that this point is at best your subjective opinion that is in a no way truly reflective of the job market for UCLA students.</p>
<p>there is no such thing as "leftover" between ucla, usc, and uc berkeley students. UC Irvine, maybe. ucSD, perhaps. But the matter of fact is that ucla, usc, and berkeley students compete against one another not based on the reputation of the respective school, but based on the personal profile of each candidate (double major, second language, gpa, internships, etc)</p>