<p>World's Best Colleges and Universities: Top 200 - US News and World Report</p>
<p>30 University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) </p>
<p>36 University of California, Berkeley
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<p>Surely undergrad world rankings dont lie, right???</p>
<p>Yea, sure. Whatever you say.</p>
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<p>Of course, you’ve got to be right. USNews is completely reliable, and completely infallible.</p>
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<p>I dunno what you are reading, but you surely are wrong</p>
<p>[Best</a> Colleges - Education - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/national-top-public]Best”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/national-top-public)
[National</a> Universities Rankings - Best Colleges - Education - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/national-search]National”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/national-search)
Cal 21, UCLA 25</p>
<p>[Best</a> Colleges - Education - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/national-freshmen-least-most-likely-return]Best”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/national-freshmen-least-most-likely-return) UCLA has a better retention rate by an insignificant .2%, but in most cases whenever UCLA has a good program, if Cal has a comparable program, Cal has the better program.</p>
<p>Also given that you, OP, are a “Premed4life [sic]”, you should go to UCLA. They have lower medical school acceptance rates (or so I have heard) and they have the largest concentration of premeds of the nation ([The</a> Daily Bruin - Walking a mile in a pre-med’s shoes](<a href=“http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/archives/id/37291/]The”>http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/archives/id/37291/)), so you can go there and remain a premed forever given their higher levels of premed on premed competition will keep you out of medical school.</p>
<p>wow UCLA win! the best UC!</p>
<p>LeftisHominid- this is the link
[World’s</a> Best Colleges and Universities: Top 200 - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-colleges/2008/11/20/worlds-best-colleges-and-universities-top-200.html]World’s”>http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-colleges/2008/11/20/worlds-best-colleges-and-universities-top-200.html)</p>
<p>source is wrong. I believe it only factors undergraduate work. This is also stupidly trying to compare US colleges to international colleges, when our systems are entirely different.</p>
<p>USNWR has several other rankings that show Cal is 21, UCLA 25.</p>
<p>I don’t see presidential advisers being picked out of UCLA</p>
<p>anyways, this ranking UCLA is higher</p>
<p>Guys, stop arguing. The rankings say UCLA is better so OBVIOUSLY it is better. Rankings are always right. How dare you question rankings. Shame on you for even thinking about it.</p>
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<p>University on the Corner of Lexington Avenue will always be one of small branches of the Berkeley tree. </p>
<p>Sorry to Bruin your day.</p>
<p>Why the hell does US News and World Report never give the props and the respect that UC Berkeley clearly deserves?</p>
<p>Yeah, and UBC is also better than Berkeley. The Times of London is a fine newspaper, but their college rankings are plain awful.</p>
<p>Next year, UCSD > Cal. LoL</p>
<p>We beat UCLA at football, therefore we are better!</p>
<p>I don’t think those rankings are correct. It says that CalTech is ahead of MIT. That cant be right.</p>
<p>actually caltech surpass MIT</p>
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<p>wow grammar win!</p>
<p>University of Michigan > UCLA. Ouch.</p>