UCLA CSE (HHSEAS) vs UCB CS (L&S)

<p>Man thats a lot of acronyms...</p>

<p>Im having a hard time deciding...
CS at UCB is a BA and
CSE at UCLA is a BS</p>

<p>Im mainly looking at the future prospect of a job: what can a BA get me vs BS?</p>

<p>Please help me out here.</p>

<p>BA is Bachelor of Arts degree and BS is Bachelor of Science degree. In my opinion, BS is better than BA.
Salary Averages:
[PayScale</a> - Bachelor of Science (BS) Degree Salary, Average Salaries](<a href=“http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Degree=Bachelor_of_Science_(BS)/Salary]PayScale”>http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Degree=Bachelor_of_Science_(BS)/Salary)
[PayScale</a> - Bachelor of Arts (BA) Degree Salary, Average Salaries](<a href=“http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Degree=Bachelor_of_Arts_(BA)/Salary]PayScale”>Bachelor of Arts (BA) Salary | PayScale)</p>

<p>@fasttrack
wow…those charts are really disappointing because I was told that CS (L&S) was essentially the same thing as EECS (CoE) just without the EE…at berkeley. :(</p>

<p>someone please tell me thats actually true and that it wont matter whether I have a BS or a BA in Computer science if im applying for a computer programmer job.</p>

<p>@leftist
even if its a BA?</p>

<p>According to the university, BA and BS is pretty much the same thing. BA just puts more emphasis in humanities and arts (and thus some required courses are geared toward that, like foreign languages). BS gears toward mathematics and physics (and required courses are geared toward that).</p>

<p>I know when some employers put out listing, they usually accept both BA and BS jobs if they are related. So there is no clear difference.
But for salaries, I honestly don’t know. I am a grad student at Cal (so I currently have a BS degree, working my way towards Master’s). I earn about $78,000 as a Software Engineer. My friend has a BA degree and currently earns about $81,000 as Senior Software Engineer. But before he earns about some 60k for the same position as me (Software Engineer).</p>

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No, I’m pretty sure BS is Bachelor of Science. If you google B.S. degree or look it up on dictionary, it says Bachelor of Science. I like to know where you got your information.</p>

<p>so then CS (L&S) at berkeley is still better than a CSE (HHSEAS) at UCLA? prestige wise and future prospect wise?</p>

<p>I think CS at Berkeley is definitely more prestigious than the program at UCLA, but keep in mind that prestige and reputation aren’t the only things to consider when choosing a school: don’t forget about the workload, location, social scene, etc.</p>

<p>And for those debating about the difference between BS from EECS and BA from L&S CS, look at this comparison:
[Career</a> Center - What Can I Do With a Major In…?](<a href=“http://career.berkeley.edu/Major/CompSci.stm]Career”>http://career.berkeley.edu/Major/CompSci.stm)
[Career</a> Center - What Can I Do With a Major In…?](<a href=“http://career.berkeley.edu/Major/EECS.stm]Career”>http://career.berkeley.edu/Major/EECS.stm)
CS does seem to make more money, but EECS sends more people to grad school and top companies such as Google and Microsoft.</p>

<p>^nice find
according to the site, almost no one with a CS degree goes to grad school. do you think this is because they choose not to or is it because its hard to get into engineering grad school with a BA?</p>

<p>I’d wager it because they find all these nice paying jobs that distract them from grad school. Or maybe all the passionate CS people aiming for grad school are in EECS.</p>

<p>at this point im leaning toward berkeley (CS at L&S) but I want to be sure that I’ll be able to get into grad school with a BA.</p>

<p>is there a “what can i do with a major in…” website for UCLA? I looked but cant find one, maybe you can?</p>

<p>Bump for an answer.</p>

<p>I have the same dilemma.</p>

<p>if you are planning on grad school, then it doesn’t really matter where you go in undergrad (most employers look at your highest degree and the school in which you got that from). But I would say you have a better chance on getting into a good grad school from Cal than at UCLA (just because Cal is more prestigious). But remember that grad school also has a “limit” on the applicants they admit from one college (meaning they won’t admit everyone from Cal - only the top ones, and they will take some top people from UCLA too). So if you think you can stand out from the rest of the Cal applicants (who may be as good as you are academically) who are applying to the same grad school, then you should be fine. But if you think you can be the top in your UCLA class, get honors or even on the Dean’s list, then I think you should go there.</p>

<p>My question was more along the lines of OP’s last question about whether or not you can get into grad school with a BA from Cal’s L&S CS program, not comparing the likelihood of going to grad school if you went to UCLA or Cal. </p>

<p>Sorry I was unclear.</p>

<p>Edit:
Oh and also, if you looked at the stats on this page…</p>

<p><a href=“http://career.berkeley.edu/Major/CompSci.stm[/url]”>http://career.berkeley.edu/Major/CompSci.stm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>…the trend seems to be that L&S CS people don’t go to grad school, compared to EECS’s 20 something percent going to grad school.</p>