<p>My daughter has been accepted in UCLA for Business Economics and Kings college (UK) for Management economics.
She is in a complete turmoil trying to make the best choice. The UCLA undgrad program is a 4 years program as opposed to Kings college (UK) which is a 3 year program.</p>
<p>Could you please advise the pros and cons of each program. </p>
<p>thank you very much</p>
<p>Natasha </p>
<p>Most foreign nations cut out an extra year because they make you focus more on your major instead of taking other general eds. A British education would be shorter, but less well-rounded. You don’t really take many electives abroad. This doesn’t really reduce the quality of the program itself, though.</p>
<p>I really enjoy england… to visit, but after the “coolness” factor wears off…where you get to say yes I am doing my undergrad abroad or for the parents…yes our child is attending college in europe. it is really really a pain to get to and from europe. and once the daily grind sets in …I would personally prefer to do that in the united states.
on the other hand cutting out 1 years worth of basket weaving courses is a nice thing. ( a plus for british schools)
in the end maybe a summer abroad at cambridge or university of surrey would be fun but…stick with america.(IMO)</p>
<p>Didn’t she have to deposit on Thursday?
In any case: one problem I see with UCL is that she may not qualify for internships and she won’t qualify for a job there (unless she has citizenship in a EU country?) so as a business student it’ll be harder for her to build her resume.
UCL and UCLA are both excellent colleges so there’s no academic difference or prestige difference. Both are in major cities and both are huge universities with large classrooms. So the main difference is living in Europe vs. living in the US, a more independent type of learning vs. a more student-centered environment, rain vs. CA weather, specialized learning vs. well-rounded learning…</p>
<p>The thing I wanted to bring up, and a bit of a nonsequitur (hopefully not wrt to you and your daughter, hopefully not agenda-drven), which I address perhaps because your family may be International wrt the US, is UC’s ramping up of its online course availability. UC, especially, with its nine campuses with 10,000’s of professors and similar nos. of courses, would be a great place for this. </p>
<p>Here’s an [article](<a href=“UC forging ahead with cross-system online courses”>UC forging ahead with cross-system online courses) from the Los Angeles Times of UC’s intentions.</p>
<p>Here’s a student from UC Riverside taking a class online from UC Davis:</p>
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<p>Here’s one from UCLA taking a class also from Davis:</p>
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<p>It’s going to take a little more time to change people’s minds that it is doable, and it’ll take a little longer for those of us who are used to classrooms, but strict classroom teaching will eventually be a thing of the past in the future.</p>
<p>Think of the possibilites: a student can pursue an acting career and engage in cattle calls outside of his/her typical locale, all without missing a step in the classroom; international students, wrt the US, can complete a degree from a UC, while situated in his/her home country, or at worst at those times the student may be needed at home.</p>
<p>A lot of this stuff is awhile off, but this has to be the wave of the future. Hopefully UC with its endless professorial and classroom resources will be at the forefront of this movement. In the meantime look for more and more classes offered online.</p>
<p>Tell your D to go for UCLA. There is a huge difference between UCLA and King’s College London in terms of employment opportunities after graduation. UCLA is an amazing school. King’s is a second-rate U of L. The BisEcon program of UCLA is top-notched with amazing employment record. King’s management program is not a solid program and does not appeal to employers. </p>
<p>King’s is NOT second-rate - I apologize for saying UCL above, by the way, I did mean King’s. Of all institutions with a business program it ranks in the top 15 and has a 450+ tariff entry for British students!</p>
<p>^^^ Are you saying King’s College has the same appeal as LSE, UCL and Imperial in the business, banking & financial world? </p>
<p>That’s a different issue. Lots of schools don’t have the same appeal as LSE, UCL, and Imperial in the business/financial world, that doesn’t make them “second rate”. </p>
<p>The issue at hand isn’t first-rate vs. second rate. The issue is Europe vs. the US, in particular for a business student. My concern would be inability to secure an internship (although I assume she’d be covered for a sandwich year, she may not get summer internships in either the UK or the US) and lack of networking with the US business community.</p>