<p>What do you want to major in?</p>
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You are a very wise person.</p>
<p>I am from Southern California and have no allegiances to either school. The general feeling around here is that UCLA is a better academic institution and is considered more prestigious. USC is far superior when it comes to it's film and undergraduate business schools. USC has arguably a better engineering program. USC used to be a school that anyone with money could get into. A lot of privileged underachievers attended USC in the past. More recently (in the past 8 years), USC has instilled stricter admission standards thus the quality of the students has risen by quite a bit. Still, there are many legacies who get into USC with sub par grades - who would otherwise be going to mid tier UC's such as UC Irvine.</p>
<p>For someone going to business/film school, I would hands down recommend USC over UCLA. Despite the Anderson School of Management being ranked higher than the Marshall School of Business, I would still USC in this field. The point of going to business school is to make connections and USC does a far better job in the area of networking particularly in the LA area.</p>
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Outside of Southern CA, nobody gives a crap about UCLA nor USC. Do not give UCLA any more credit than that. In fact, my admin graduated from UCLA.
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<p>Are you kidding me? Outside of southern cal USC = South Carolina while UCLA is still regarded as a national public powerhouse. There's a reason it ranks in the top 20 in almost all graduate programs. </p>
<p>Your ignorance shows through when you make a comment like "outside of south ca nobody gives a crap about ucla. Do not give ucla any more credit than that." Last time I checked UCLA is on par w/ berkeley, michigan, virginia, georgetown.</p>
<p>USC is the University of Southern California everywhere except South Carolina. Although an improving institution, South Carolina has virtually no visibility even with the Old Ball Coach running their football team.</p>
<p>Thats weird. I only got 3 replies when I started the UCLA vs UCB thread while this one got 2 pages.</p>
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Just driving around LA(which I do alot of) I see more license plates that read USC alum, or Trojans/USC. You get my point.
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<p>This is dependent on where you are driving. West LA you will see majority ucla alum, pasdena and san marino you will see majority usc alum</p>
<p>I suggest nobody offer any further input until ayoub (who is probably a bored junior who wouldn't qualify for either school) comes back to answer the basic questions about financial aid and intended major.</p>
<p>I suspect ayoub is just a troll.</p>
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Are you kidding me? Outside of southern cal USC = South Carolina while UCLA is still regarded as a national public powerhouse. There's a reason it ranks in the top 20 in almost all graduate programs. </p>
<p>Your ignorance shows through when you make a comment like "outside of south ca nobody gives a crap about ucla. Do not give ucla any more credit than that." Last time I checked UCLA is on par w/ berkeley, michigan, virginia, georgetown.
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<p>Yes it's obvious that UCLA students think very highly of UCLA. UCLA ranking is in top 30 and so is USC. I mentioned this because one poster from Massachusetts stated that UCLA is not that well known in MA. I believe she got into Stanford. If you check the UCLA common data set, there are 19,000 transfer students at UCLA, probably 90% from CC. While USC only has 4,000 transfer students. There are more transfer students at UCLA than at USC.</p>
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Yes it's obvious that UCLA students think very highly of UCLA. UCLA ranking is in top 30 and so is USC. I mentioned this because one poster from Massachusetts stated that UCLA is not that well known in MA. I believe she got into Stanford. If you check the UCLA common data set, there are 19,000 transfer students at UCLA, probably 90% from CC. While USC only has 4,000 transfer students. There are more transfer students at UCLA than at USC.
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<p>UCLA is a top 25 if you want to get picky, which you obviously are. One poster said UCLA was not that well known in MA? Well it must be so then! Have you ever taken a logics class? If not google part to whole logical fallacy and you'll see why you sound stupid. </p>
<p>There's nothing wrong with transfer students. I'm a CC transfer and before my CC I went to a school that most would consider better than Columbia (:)), on par with HYP. And if we're going to be degrading universities for BS things like who went to a CC why don't we mention how Barnard kids can get a Columbia diploma....can anybody not get a Columbia diploma these days if they want it?</p>
<p>OMG....i cant believe the number of times this same topics been discussed</p>
<p>I'm not degrading CC. When a school accepts a large number of transfer students from CC than it cannot be selective, according to CCland. So let's not get carry away with which school is more prestigious.</p>
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One poster said UCLA was not that well known in MA? Well it must be so then! Have you ever taken a logics class? If not google part to whole logical fallacy and you'll see why you sound stupid.
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<p>haha, it's not meant to be logical. But no more than some guy with a screenname LAXAttack states UCLA is more well known in the East Coast. Proof is that at least one high school senior who claimed her high school has not heard much of UCLA and UCB in MA.</p>
<p>were is that 19,000 transfer students coming from, i would like to see that data set.</p>
<p>University</a> of California - Admissions</p>
<p>i wonder how the number of transfer students increased by 12,000 in 1 yr</p>
<p>Undergraduate:
Men(first-time freshman) - 1,916
Women(first-time freshman) - 2,796
Men(all other degree seeking) - 8,591
Women(all other degree seeking) - 10,871</p>
<p>I know there are lots of transfers, but I wouldn't go to say 19,000. I heard roughly 40% are transfers, which mathematically adds to around 10,000, which is still a lot, but not nearly as many as 19,000.</p>
<p>But that being said, I wouldn't say UCLA is something that "wouldn't be given crap about", even in the Eastcoast. I'm sure more people give crap about it than those who don't crap, and I'm much more sure that those who don't give crap about UCLA doesn't give crap about college in general, or are absolutely not interested in moving to Westcoast (meaning they don't give crap about Stanford, Berkeley, and USC, and even CalTech).</p>
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Undergraduate:
Men(first-time freshman) - 1,916
Women(first-time freshman) - 2,796
Men(all other degree seeking) - 8,591
Women(all other degree seeking) - 10,871
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<p>So basically what you are saying is, if you are not a freshman, then you are a transfer?</p>
<p>You fail in logic.</p>
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Ayoub, you never answered my questions about which school would be cheaper for you financial aid-wise, or what your intended major is. Asking for links to photos and videos of the two campuses seems to be a rather superficial way of deciding where to go. You can do a google image search yourself to get that.</p>
<p>Are you seriously trying to compare the two schools to make a decision about which to attend, or did you just want to try and start a USC/UCLA rivalry thread? I suspect the latter.
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I suggest nobody offer any further input until ayoub (who is probably a bored junior who wouldn't qualify for either school) comes back to answer the basic questions about financial aid and intended major.</p>
<p>I suspect ayoub is just a troll.
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<p>FIRST OF ALL... im not a troll, lol
2nd of all UCLA Band Mom, how about you try to stop guessing peoples attentions, because im NOT trying to start a USC/UCLA rivalry thread for the heck of it and i DO want to make a serious decision, so why don't you just remind me on what you want to know instead of insulting me... god... people like you really frustrate me!
3rd of all DunninLA, i am NOT a "a bored junior who wouldn't qualify for either school"... if you don't want to help me out then shut the hell up, just don't insult me and tell people to ignore this thread...</p>
<p>anyways, i will answer both of your questions: UCLA will be cheaper for me (i would have to pay 7,000 a year for tuition at UCLA vs paying 15,000 a year at USC) BUT I know I will be getting financial aid from USC (don't know how much yet) My major is going to be some pre-med major or a similar major like some chem.major (im not 100% sure right now)</p>
<p>sorry for the horrible english, i typed this as fast as i could</p>
<p>thank you everyone else for your great answers</p>
<p>UCLA -</p>
<p>Pros:
-Cheap Tuition
-Safe & Affluent Surroundings
-Campus goes crazy during Basketball Season
-More Prestige Nationally and Internationally
-Lots of "highly ranked" majors to choose from
-Close to everything (Santa Monica for Beach, Hollywood for Clubbing, Beverly Hills for shopping, all within 10 minutes away)</p>
<p>Cons:
-Huge population body
-Huge Lower-division classes (thus lack of individual attention)
-Enrollment can be difficult for impacted classes
-Less diverse in terms of meeting people from outside California</p>
<p>USC -</p>
<p>Pros:
-Generous with Financial Aid
-Campus goes crazy during Football Season
-Powerful Trojan Network
-Strong Professional Programs (Business, Engineering, Film, Communications)
-More diverse than UCLA in terms of meeting people from outside California</p>
<p>Cons:
-Surrounding is South Central
-High tuition (but then you get fin. aid, so this can be ignored for some of you)
-Lower "outside-of-california" Prestige</p>
<p>:Dthank you dhl3, great review!</p>
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Undergraduate:
Men(first-time freshman) - 1,916
Women(first-time freshman) - 2,796
Men(all other degree seeking) - 8,591
Women(all other degree seeking) - 10,871
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<p>omg, im sorry i cant contain myself. you fail at logic x2</p>