<p>If you had the choice between these two colleges, where would you go?</p>
<p>Are you making that choice? What matters to you?</p>
<p>Indeed I am, and I’m having a hard time choosing one. I’m just curious to see where other people would decide to go, just to get a feel for each university’s popularity in general.</p>
<p>Who is paying for your education? If your parents are the ones paying, you should ask them for guidance. 1. Affordability (how much can you or your family afford?) 2. Fit (do you want to be the big fish in a small pond or a small fish in a big pond?) 3. Do you have plans to go to grad school? Perhaps this will give you a better idea. Good luck!</p>
<p>UCLA is very well known outside of CA whereas Chapman is not. That may help you if you plan to work out of CA. With the cutbacks in the UC system it may take five years to get a degree at UCLA. UCLA is in a nice area with lots to do & UCLA has an outstanding medical hospital.</p>
<p>“UCLA is very well known outside of CA whereas Chapman is not. That may help you if you plan to work out of CA.”</p>
<p>^^That is incorrect. Chapman is ranked 7th in the USNWR for the entire western region of the U.S. and Chapman has a world-renowned film school among world’s best film schools. Chapman has a film school in Asia and Chapman students have jobs and internships around the world in other subject areas as well. In addition, Chapman has an excellent Law School and excellent Sciences and Tech programs along with great Arts programs, and Social Sciences.</p>
<p>Which college fits your needs and feels right for you? What are you planning on majoring in? You should go to a college that is best for your major.</p>
<p>How’s the money situation? UCLA is more well known and much harder to get accepted. I don’t think it’s 100% accurate that it takes 5 years to graduate. The UCs in general accept a lot of AP credits. What’s going to be your major?</p>
<p>Thank you for all these suggestions, but where would YOU go?</p>
<p>The money is not an issue because I got a scholarship for Chapman. Not for UCLA though… </p>
<p>The thing with the major is that I probably want to major in something like health sciences but UCLA doesn’t seem to have anything like that. Chapman does. But I’m worried that Chapman would not be as exciting as UCLA. I’ve gone over the pros and cons for both colleges countless times without coming to a conclusion, because the more I think about it the more indecisive I become because I’m “falling in love” more and more with both schools haha. Don’t know what to doooo!!!</p>
<p>Hi jujummm,
What kind of excitement are you referring to? Are you referring to academic challenge or things to do around campus? How exciting that you’re interested in health sciences! Chapman has very strong programs in the health sciences, in both undergrad and grad. Also keep in mind that they’re building a new state-of-the-art Science Center that will house their Health Sciences, Biopharmacy School and all of their Sciences & Tech programs. You’ll love it! One of the big differences is you’ll be able to work and be challenged by your professors more closely because of smaller class sizes. Your professor knows who you are and call you by your name, and it’s easier to make friends because you’ll be able to get to know your classmates well just like you would with your professor. This is one of the advantages of attending a private school, where some people are willing to pay big bucks for this privilege. You’re extremely lucky to be admitted to Chapman and with scholarship, too! </p>
<p>Looking for exciting things to do around town and around campus? No worries. Chapman is near Disneyland which is only 10 minutes away from the school, many students have annual passes to Disneyland, you might even find some Chapman students holding jobs or internships there, too! You can even see the Disneyland fireworks every night from the Chapman dorms. There are plenty of things to do on and off the campus, from Greek life to sporting events to going to the movies, or to the beach, etc. You will never be bored. </p>
<p>Btw, Congrats on your acceptances to such fine schools! Again, best of luck in your decision!</p>
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Let’s not be ridiculous. They’re called “regional” universities for a reason and the list of regional universities, to be frank, are quite uncompetitive. Also, shining in one field does not mean national attention. UCLA has the best film school in the nation and Easterners are still sometimes complaining about it obscurity.</p>
<p>Being in the same ranking category as CSUs, Chapman is similarly obscure. I’m not implying its important to go to a well known or prestigious university but Chapman is not necessarily considered a “good” school because of it’s 7th ranking and 99% of people don’t know what Chapman is.</p>
<p>If you want to major in health sciences, that probably means you are planning to go on for a master’s or more. I’m thinking of professions like OT, PT, public health, pharmacy, etc. Is that what you mean by health sciences? I would look closely at the health sciences advising at both schools, and how many students they get into grad schools. Do they have any relationships with the professional programs you will be interested in? You will most likely be taking many science classes, so look at average class sizes, also. I would also ask about internship opportunities at both. </p>
<p>I have not skin in the game with either school, but we just visited a bunch of schools in S. Cal, and were favorably impressed with Chapman. We did not look at any California publics, as we are OOS, however, so I can’t compare UCLA with Chapman. I agree that UCLA has the bigger name and reputation, but will that matter for the undergraduate degree that you want? Unless you want to get your PHD, it doesn’t much matter where you go to school for a health profession, just as long as you take the prerequisites needed for the grad schools you are interested in, YMMV. Grad school is expensive, so it is always good to follow the money, also. </p>
<p>As to things to do, Orange County is definitely not LA, but there appeared to be tons of activities, clubs, etc. There are nearby beaches, ski resorts, etc.</p>
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“Let’s not be ridiculous. They’re called “regional” universities for a reason and the list of regional universities, to be frank, are quite uncompetitive. Also, shining in one field does not mean national attention. UCLA has the best film school in the nation and Easterners are still sometimes complaining about it obscurity.”</p>
<p>The difference between National Universities and Regional Universities ( AKA Best Masters Universities) - are the number of PhD programs offered. That’s why it was called “Best Master’s Universities”. National or Regional does not make a difference in an undergrad or master’s program. Chapman recently added a new PhD program in Computational Science. In addition, Chapman is opening their new Biopharmacy school in 2014. With the additional doctoral programs added, eventually Chapman will be moved to the National category. Chapman shines more ways than one. For example, in health sciences, Chapman’s athletic training students are Exam Champs!
According to the Chapman’s link, Class of 2010 Trounces the Average BOC Pass Rate</p>
<p>"Here’s more evidence that Chapman ATEP graduates excel beyond the national average: 16 out of 16 from the class of 2010 passed the Board of Certification (BOC) exam, 14 of them passed on their first attempt. Our first-attempt pass rate (87.5%) continues to greatly exceed the national average of approximately 50%.</p>
<p>The class of 2010’s stellar performance continues the CU ATEP tradition of success. Since fall 2002, 88% of all Chapman AT graduates have passed the BOC examthe majority of them doing so with their first attempt. Success with the exam is also linked to placement in graduate schools and employment, which we also track. More than 90% of CU ATEP graduates since 2002 have been accepted to graduate schools and/or secured jobs."</p>
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" Being in the same ranking category as CSUs, Chapman is similarly obscure. I’m not implying its important to go to a well known or prestigious university but Chapman is not necessarily considered a “good” school because of it’s 7th ranking and 99% of people don’t know what Chapman is."</p>
<p>So you’re implying that Cal Poly SLO is not a good school either then, because Chapman is tied with Cal Poly SLO in the ranking. So should I assume that Trinity, Santa Clara, and other top regional schools are not “good” school either? They are all under the same region.
The ridiculous one here is the one who said 99% of people don’t know what Chapman is. LOL.</p>
<p>That’s a no brainer. I’d go to UCLA.</p>
<p>However, at Chapman, you get to establish close professional relationships with your professors. Small class sizes is great. In terms of social life, you won’t have one unless you’re a part of Greek Life. I find people here to be super snobby. It’s a terrific school though in terms of academics - don’t get me wrong, but if I could re do my entire college career, I would NOT go here.</p>
<p>Even though I have had 3 internships, a leadership position (president of a club), and have been on the dean’s list, I’m still having a hard time securing a job. I’ll be graduating from Chapman this May. Unless you are an accounting major, Chapman won’t give a crap about you. Everyone here knows that.</p>
<p>I’d have to agree that Chapman is not known outside of Socal. I’d go to UCLA hands down.</p>
<p>This has to be a thread started by those associated with Chapman trying to prop up its name.</p>
<p>Effectively no one decides between Chapman and UCLA, definitely no one outside of those considering film programs.</p>
<p>Those who like Chapman would probably consider applying to Laverne, maybe Pepperdine, Westmont, etc. Usually the consortium of smaller, more regional u’s in CA. Maybe if they have the stats, they might apply to USC.</p>
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<p>One who speaks the truth is never ridiculous ;)</p>
<p>hello i know of a friend who has this same problem;
Although, ucla is very well-known and considered very prestigious school, chapman is also a good choice too;
(depends on your personality your ambitions)</p>
<p>If it costs less for you to attend chapman, i would recommend it because
doing undergrad. in a small environment e.g more opportunity, better grades im guessing is better if you can get awesome grades and go to a GREAT grad school.</p>
<p>UCLA as you already know will be very competitive.</p>
<p>Although chapman is not as well known as UCLA, if you look at the bigger picture, it might actually be a GOOD decision! </p>
<p>GOOD LUCK</p>
<p>If money is no object I would go to UCLA because of their great Med Schools and possible tie in with Nutrition. If money is an object how much more is UCLA going to cost you a year instead of going to Chapman? UCLA is going to be very tough because many of the students there all they did was study in High School and received As in most of their honors and AP classes. Chapmans graduation rate is very high and most finish school in 4 years which is very unusual at a UC. If there is a big saving to you going to Chapman you could use the money you save going to grad school.</p>
<p>I was interested in your comments Letschatabout so I checked you out though your previous posts. On the social front you came in as a Junior to Chapman. Most bonding takes place as Freshman at any University so you missed out on this. I also missed out on this when I transferred into UC Berkeley from San Francisco City College. But it only takes meeting one particular boy or girl at any University to get married if that is what you are after. </p>
<p>I have heard the Greek life at Chapman is more like joining a club since there are no Greek houses there. It is just a social group that I guess you could have joined. Why didnt you?</p>
<p>I was interested in the internships you choose Letschatabout. Were they in the fields you wanted to work in? Did you like the work there? Did you make contacts there with employees and workers that can help you find a job?</p>
<p>I have read that Argyros School of Business at Chapman University is a great school. The class sizes are very small so weren’t the professor able to give you leads to find work?</p>
<p>Letschatabout, Be honest. What was your problem in the first place before transferring to Chapman? I am a parent of a Chapman student. My kid has no problem finding off campus work since freshmen. As a matter of fact, DS is a full-time sophomore film student at Chapman, and already had several internships with a company on own in addition to holding a paid part-time job. Not only that, the company where DS interned even offered to pay for the work.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that if you want a job, you have to go after it, no matter the school. My advice is don’t wait for an employer to come knocking on your door. How many places have you applied? Did you check with the career center? What is on your resume? Do you have a good relationship with your professor or the Chair of your department? Did you request a letter of recommendation? Regardless of your field of study, it’s how well you present yourself. Are you a hard worker? Do you have a nice personality and able to work well with others? What kind of skills and experiences do you have? Are you able to apply your knowledge? I’ve heard of plenty of students from Chapman who have job offers before graduation that is not in an accounting major. A friend of mine has a son who graduated from Chapman’s Computer Science program had received an employment offer before graduation. After graduation he landed a job making $100K and now he has his own business. Chapman is well regarded. All you have to do is look at their list of Chapman alumni working at such distinguished companies as Boeing, Google, Apple and others.</p>
<p>With that said, my advice for you is to have a better attitude in order to securing a job, otherwise, the job won’t last.</p>