<p>I have decided that I want to get into business, and these are the two main schools that I want to go to (along with UT). I am sort of confused about UCLA and only economics. Whereas at USC there is more range of focus in business. Is the SC business school reputable? Is the Econ from UCLA enough, and possibly even comprable to what I would get out of USC?</p>
<p>thank you</p>
<p>I've heard all kinds of stuff about Marshall at USC on here, but not a peep about the business school at UCLA. Though I must say I'm going to USC, so I don't visit the UCLA board.</p>
<p>Are you a CA resident?</p>
<p>ya I live in southern california, about 50 miles east of LA and love it and want to stay here.
By heard all kinds of stuff about marshall, is that negative or positive.</p>
<p>UCLA has business economics with an accounting minor, which is good for finance and accounting jobs (investment banking, accounting, corporate finance)</p>
<p>UCLA does not have a business degree in marketing, advertising, and management. So it depends on what you do</p>
<p>However, people who want to pursue careers in marketing, or advertising tend to major in Communication Studies.</p>
<p>The job prospects at both schools are similar in Southern California. All the bulge-bracket investment banks (Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, UBS, Lehman Brothers, Credit Suise), big four accounting firms (KPMG, PwC, Ernst & Young, Deloitte), and top consulting firms (Bain Consulting, Boston Consulting, Mercer HR Consulting) recruit at UCLA. So the fact that UCLA does not have a "business administration" degree is irrelevant.</p>
<p>If you're instate, you should consider tuition, the overall prestige of the schools, fit (campus, social life, etc)</p>
<p>If you're instate, you should consider the overall prestige of the schools, fit (campus, social life, etc), tuition (less of a factor)</p>
<p>The prestige of UCLA and USC in Socal is similar, but UCLA is more prestigious nationwide and internationally.</p>
<p>It was all positive stuff, but If you want in-state tution, go to Berkley</p>
<p>I guess if someone told me they were going/went to UCLA, I'd say "Why didn't you go to Berkley?"</p>
<p>I'm instate, got in Berkeley, and going to UCLA.</p>
<p>It's very common for people to turn down Berkeley for UCLA. There are many reasons "why didn't you go to Berkeley."</p>
<p>Yeah, but why not go the real University of California?</p>
<p>I do not even know if I will apply to Berkeley. It just does not seem to be the place I want to be (norcal). Unless I visit it (which I possibly will), and love it, I doubt I will consider it. Although I may apply in case there is a change of plan. I just really really like everything about Southern California and Texas. I lived near dallas for 6 years and like the laid back nature of Austin. I now live in SoCal and love how I can go to the beach, snowboard, go dirtbiking, go to the river, whatever. Norcal--- I dunno. </p>
<p>I am going to visit UCLA and USC (officially... I have driven by but thats about it) soon and I'll see how that goes.</p>
<p>Is berkeley's business deal the same as UCLA?</p>
<p>I know people who got rejected by UCLA, but accepted to Cal spring admit and others regular admit. I also know people who got rejected by Cal, but accepted to UCLA. The admissions difficulty is similar (admit rate, GPA, test scores).</p>
<p>UCLA's academic quality is similar to UC Berkeley. If you join the Honors program, you get priority enrollment and you can take classes that have a max size of 20 people. Those classes are Ivy quality.</p>
<p>I like UCLA's campus more; some people like Berkeley's more
I like Westwood more; some people like Berkeley more.
I like SoCal; some people like NorCal
I like the social life at UCLA more; some people like it more at Cal</p>
<p>Perhaps you don't live in California, but for many people deciding between UCLA and Cal is a tough decision (wherever they may end up).</p>
<p>I don't think people refer to Berkeley as the real University of California.</p>
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No, Berkeley has a business administration degree. However, you need to apply after 2 years to get accepted into Haas. The average GPA of accepted people have a 3.5 or 3.6 GPA. Most people who do not get in, major in economics. The average GPA of people (you need to apply for econ too) who get accepted into the econ major is a 3.4 GPA. Therefore, many people end up in a third choice major (not business or economics).
<a href="http://emlab.berkeley.edu/econ/ugrad/hb1.shtml?hb02%5B/url%5D">http://emlab.berkeley.edu/econ/ugrad/hb1.shtml?hb02</a></p>
<p>gregdunn, apply to the University of Texas-Austin Business Honors program. It's difficult to get in, but it has excellent job prospects. Also, I think UT's OOS tuition isn't that expensive.</p>
<p>So just visit the three schools: UCLA (biz econ, econ), USC (marshall) and University of Texas (McCombs Honors) and see what you like. You should apply to more than one school anyways.</p>
<p>By the way, as a biz econ major, you take finance and accounting classes at UCLA Anderson (top 10 MBA in US News, #1 faculty in BusinessWeek) such as finance, organization of the firm, entrepreneurship, pricing and strategy, money and banking, accounting, etc.</p>
<p>Thank you all very much for all this information</p>
<p>Berkeley sounds almost... like a crapshoot. Just another reason it's not exactly up there on my desired schools.</p>
<p>I don't see myself in advertising or marketing, rather finance, and if this were to be the case, I guess UCLA vs. USC is where I feel more comfortable at/like better, as there is not Overwhelming reason to not go to one over another? Right? kind of maybe?</p>
<p>thanks again</p>
<p>About the Texas Honors Program, do you know whether or not you are accepted before you start there? Or do you have to wait 2 years and whatnot. Also, about the acceptance to the UCLA honors deal, how does that work. Are there any liinks/information? I have never even heard of one at ucla, I'll definetely look into that and thank you very much</p>
<p>After looking at the Honors at UCLA and UT... I think that I will apply to UT BHP, UCLA, UCB (just because), USC, and Penn, for kicks, and possible some safeties. (of course this list will probably change 10 times before senior year)</p>
<p>thank you all for clarifying everything for me</p>
<p>i agree with dyip10's posts. </p>
<p>for recruitment of jobs in general, UCLA bizecon students are on par with USC marshall students. </p>
<p>the actual content of the two major's classes are different though.</p>
<p>I opted for Berkeley over UCLA but UCLA is still an awesome school. I'd choose UCLA since it known outside of California.</p>
<p>"It was all positive stuff, but If you want in-state tution, go to Berkley</p>
<p>I guess if someone told me they were going/went to UCLA, I'd say "Why didn't you go to Berkley?"</p>
<p>While CAL easily has the edge of UCLA in reputation and prestige nationally/internationally, the reality is that they are closer academically than Berkeley/SC... even UCLA/SC.</p>
<p>If someone told me they were going/went to USC, I'd ask "Why are you paying Stanford tuition for UCLA (at best) quality?"</p>
<p>On the matter of UCLA vs. USC for business and/or business economics, I'd choose UCLA because it's less than half the cost if you are a CA resident ($23K vs. $48K). One of my business partners is a USC alum, and he really wanted my daughter to apply to USC (she didn't, although she did apply to UCLA before withdrawing her application after being accepted ED at Emory University). I have a lot of friends who are grads of both schools. One friend attended USC for 2 years before transferring to UCLA -- she favors UCLA in all respects. They're both excellent schools, though, and if money is not a factor, choose the school that has the best fit for you. I can assure you that whether you get your bachelor's degree from USC vs. UCLA will not make much difference in the real world.</p>
<p>UCLA Honors Program:
<a href="http://www.college.ucla.edu/up/honors/freshman.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.college.ucla.edu/up/honors/freshman.html</a></p>
<p>UT McCombs
<a href="http://www.mccombs.utexas.edu/programs/bhp/admissions/admissions.asp%5B/url%5D">http://www.mccombs.utexas.edu/programs/bhp/admissions/admissions.asp</a>
I believe you are accepted into McCombs right away (you don't have to wait 2 years).
Here are the admission statistics for freshman Business Honors admit (the regular business program isn't this high)
<a href="http://www.mccombs.utexas.edu/programs/bhp/admissions/freshstat.asp%5B/url%5D">http://www.mccombs.utexas.edu/programs/bhp/admissions/freshstat.asp</a>
If you don't get in Business Honors as a freshman, you can apply after your freshman year
<a href="http://www.mccombs.utexas.edu/programs/bhp/admissions/sophstat.asp%5B/url%5D">http://www.mccombs.utexas.edu/programs/bhp/admissions/sophstat.asp</a></p>
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money was a huge factor for me...in fact, because i was a little slow in turning in some of my financial aid documents to USC, i wasn't able to see my financial aid award until the last week before statements of intent were due and pretty much wasn't going to go to USC. that is, until i saw my aid package with a $19,000 grant, not to mention my merit scholarship (a lot of which which probably ended up coming out of my grant anyways). USC tends to give very generous financial aid awards, averaging at $19,000. i've seen grants up to $35,000, no merit money. so i'd say money is less of a factor than you'd think.</p>
<p>that said, both schools are excellent, it could have gone in any of a number of ways for me but in the end it was what i thought would be better for my purposes. for me, the two schools offered slightly different academic opportunities, though i'm sure equal in quality. fine tune just what exactly you want from your school academically, then see both schools and determine which environment you like better.</p>
<p>Which is more competitive (competition among students for top grades), UCLA Biz Econ. or Marshall, because of the curve?</p>
<p>USC has their honors program with <20 class size too, which I suppose you could say was "ivy quality", except I think that's a ridiculous comparison.</p>
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<p>pfft. There are loads of people here at USC who pay less than UCLA in-state tuition. Just because the worst-case cost is higher than UCLA doesn't mean that USC is more expensive in every case. In fact USC hands out buckets of merit and need based aid every year.</p>