<p>ucr has a med program with ucla...and will soon have its own medical school...
...it has teaching program that makes it helps students become teachers in California...it has a great karate program, business programs, and it is the most diverse UCs....and believe it or not ucr has one of the best locations as it is in the middle of everything...close to disneyland, the beach, la, big bear for winter breaks and so on....</p>
<p>...UCR FROM MY OPINION WILL DEFINTELY HAVE A BETTER REPUTATION IN 4 YEARS</p>
<p>Honestly every thing you have mentioned thus far has existed for a while. It kind of has to be new things that take us places. </p>
<p>However will it have a better reputation in 4 years? Probably. Our new commons will be finished in 2-3, changing our campus from a town with a crater in the center to a town with a huge mall in the middle. I believe that would at least help our rankings somewhat. But do not expect us to jump to the front. At most in 4 years we will hit rank 65 on the US News (which i hate, but everybody else loves. so im using it)</p>
<p>I've noticed that a lot of the lower ranked UCs have been making tremendous leaps in reputation. Irvine is already catching up to SD in many respects. I think that in 4~10 years Riverside might even make the top 50 in the US Weekly/Princeton Review rankings. Still, a lot of this will have to come from the students dispelling this negative stigma associated with the school, possibly by making it a little bit more selective. My friend wasn't even UC eligible and still got in... Its stuff like this that will perpetuate UCR's status as a back up back up backup school for most students.</p>
<p>UCR is an excellent institution in many respects, but let's be realistic. Competition for top spots is fierce. Who will a school like UCR depose?</p>
<p>What I see happening in the coming decades is not necessarily a shift in the numbers, but a shift in the relative perception of schools. As the top UCs begin to push more students down the ladder to middling and lower UCs, better students will attend those campuses; this will mean that despite "stagnant" rankings, the schools will have better reputations.</p>
<p>Well once people realize the rankings and therefore the apparently dismal admissions numbers are really just a product of the substandard area the school is in rather than the school itself, well then, we should be good and dandy. And considering many parts of the inland empire and are expanding, the area may eventually be more inviting. It would be great if instead of having a joint program with UCLA, they had a joint program with loma linda. And instead of using a rather sorry community hospital for its future medical program, they should build an entirely new facility. Their is not just a shortage of medical personal, but also a shortage of medical facilities.</p>
<p>Starbucks spends millions upon millions to research "up and coming" areas. 4 new stores have sprouted up in the last 2 months in a 3 miles radius of the school. That is not including the 4 or so that were already there</p>
<p>As a "old person" lol who has lived in So Cal all my life, I tend to agree that UC Riverside will also have a good reputation in several years. Back in the day, lol, Berkley didn't have a partuicularly good reputation and it has only been the last several years that UCI has moved up in the ranks (and UCSD as well). A big part of the picture is the number of qualified and over qualified applicants applying to the UC's. Also, it depends on the professors, research the school is able to draw, and majors the school is able to offer. In the case of UCI, it's medical school has always been good but it's reputation in others areas was not so good. UCI's hospital used to be the pit of the world IMO, I know because I worked there but now it is beautiful and a great teaching institution. UCI has just recently, after all these years, added an econ and accounting program. Engineering is also good. Their teaching program is top knotch. So UCI has worked hard at drawing different types of students, not just science. I believe Riverside will do the same, it will just take time and UCR will find it's place in the UC's. The campus is beautiful and as for the location, IMO, there are many, many schools throughout the US, where the campus itself is beautiful but the areas outside is not so good..USC and Yale are 2 examples. Anyway, that is my two or three cents worth...</p>
<p>Most of the UC's didn't gain any sort of real "prestige" until the late 70s and early 80's, when budgets for public university systems were expanded in CA. We could argue that Berkeley was put on the map b/c of the protests in the 60s, but i don't think it was considered a "prestigious" school.</p>
<p>Berkeley was actually, in many ways, in its prime in the 1960s. It was a significant center of nuclear research, and quite well known in the research community.</p>
<p>UCLAri,
There is no argument here about Cal's research over the years, and yes I did mean '60's and 70's. Since Cal is the "first" uni, it has been on the map for a long time. But I agree with Kmass.....I'm going to end my argument here because this is a UCR thread......Anyway, it will be interesting to see where UCR ends up on the UC ladder in say 5-10 years.</p>
<p>Just because this is a "UCR thread" doesn't mean that there isn't a parallel to draw or something to learn here from the Berkeley example.</p>
<p>Yes, UCR will grow. However, it's HIGHLY doubtful that it will climb much in the rankings in the next 5-10 years, simply because there's no one to kick down.</p>
<p>The Inland Empire is NOT the next Orange County (although I have seen it lampooned as "The RC"). Regardless of how much growth there is and how many new houses are built, the inland empire will never have beaches (in our lifetime anyway) or weather as good as OC's. </p>
<p>And I'm not saying this to defend Orange County. I don't live there. I live in the inland empire, in Murrieta. It's a nice place but it will never be Orange County.</p>
<p>i am talking about growth, no one ever said anything about weather, i think it is noticeable that the inland empire will never have an ocean front, that is unless global warming predictions are correct. Orange county is known outside of its beach front properties.</p>
<p>The Inland Empire's growth will be determined by how fast coastal counties develop. Growth first has to be maxed in California's coastal regions before it begins to seep into the inland areas. This inherently gives an advantage to schools such as UCI, UCSD, UCLA, UCSB, UCSC, and Cal. While I think that UCR has a very good chance of jumping ranks in the near future (88=>70 doesn't seem too unlikely in 10 years), it is highly implausible that UCR is going to surpass fellow members of the UC system. I think I mentioned before that UCSB has a surprising number of Nobel Prize winners who teach there because of the climate. Such an incentive does not present itself at UCR, nor does the idea of living in the area that is LA's smog receptor appeal to many top notch students, teachers, or investors (who invest into the area to bring it growth)</p>
<p>What you're saying is correct, southpasadena, but San Bernardino's growth depends on when home prices in coastal regions reaches so much of a high that regular people can no longer expect to be able to purchase a home. However, home price has little bearings on the school's rankings, despite its impact on growth of the surrounding city. UCR is going to grow when the other UC's become more selective due to overwhelmingly high numbers of applicants. Do I see it surpassing Davis or Santa Barbara in the near future? Not really. I would give UCR at least a generation or two to overcome the stigma it has now of being a back up back up back up, but a generation of solid development of the school before it can compete as a top 50 school. It will probably still linger at the bottom of the UC food chain for some time until it can develop fairly strongly in a certain desirable department so as to skip past maybe Davis. Investing more heavily in the Engineering School or Business programs maybe?</p>