<p>"Some UC officials think that increasing the number of students like Chen would be a smart way for the university system to bring in more revenue at a time when the state budget is tight. They point to other state university systems that enroll much higher percentages of out-of-state students. </p>
<p>Opponents of the idea warn that it could squeeze out qualified California students.</p>
<p>"When we start chasing that money as a substitute for state money, that's bad public policy," said Lt. Gov. John Garamendi, a regent by virtue of his office who is also exploring a run for governor.</p>
<p>At UC campuses, in-state freshmen pay about $8,100 in fees, not including room, board or books. Because California does not provide funding for out-of-state students, about half of the extra $20,000 they pay each year covers UC's costs and the other half is profit for the system, officials said. "</p>
<p>Good for out-of-state students with cash. Not so good for anyone else. (Well, it's good for all students at the UCs to have a more diverse group of students at the UCs, but more diverse geographically and less diverse socioeconomically is a tough trade-off.)</p>
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<p>Good for out-of-state students with cash. Not so good for anyone else. (Well, it's good for all students at the UCs to have a more diverse group of students at the UCs, but more diverse geographically and less diverse socioeconomically is a tough trade-off.)<<</p>
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<p>Since many Californians moved there from other states and other countries, they are already very ethnically, racially, and economicially diverse. It has been argued that the UCs already provide an uncommon degree of diversity by concentrating on CA residents.</p>
<p>As a baseball fan who has sat through many Angels home games where at least half of the crowd cheered for the visiting Yankees, Red Sox, or White Sox, I can attest that the population of southern California is indeed already very geographically diverse. Californians are very used to having neighbors who recently moved in from somewhere else.</p>
<p>The financial aid package will be comprised of Pell/ACG/Smart for qualifiers, which comes no where near the COA, the rest would be loans, so most low income kids would be foolish to take it</p>
<p>Unless the kid gets a regents, chancellors, or alumni scholarship they are out of luck</p>
<p>I like the idea. This will truly bring diversity to the UC and will make it the national university. The UC should provide financial aid to OOS students. I believe a large percentage of OOS students will graduate and contribute to the state of California.</p>
<p>The UC system should do this. For every 1 oos applicant they admit it means another instate student can go for reduced tuition so they might as well.</p>
<p>^^This assumes there is plenty of room for all the qualified in-state applicants. If not for every OOS applicant they admit it means another in-state student can't go at all.</p>
<p>And why should the UCs be a "national university?' If other states want California to take on a big role in educating their residents, let them send some of their tax revenues over here with them.</p>
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And why should the UCs be a "national university?' If other states want California to take on a big role in educating their residents, let them send some of their tax revenues over here with them.
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<p>Because it will help California. Why should the UC gives scholarship and financial to a lot of californian students whose parents don't pay CA state tax? And why should selective private colleges provide free college education to foreign students?</p>
<p>Making the UC a competitive national university will help retaining top californian high school students.</p>
<p>It is. While it may be an economic necessity here in CA to take more full pay OOS tuition students I disagree with anyone who thinks any UC is not diverse or nationally competitive.
As a CA business owner, I certainly do not want to pay more than the outrageous taxes I already pay to support financial aid for OOS students.</p>
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As a CA business owner, I certainly do not want to pay more than the outrageous taxes I already pay to support financial aid for OOS students.
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<p>You should not pay more. And it does not mean OOS students have free lunch here.</p>
<p>By the way I saw many CA small business owners make a lot of money and their kids still receive financial aids because the parents receive cash. Only salaried parents pay big time.</p>
<p>Having grown up in CA and understanding how california centric kids are there, I've always thought it would greatly benefit the UCs to have a significant number of OOS kids.</p>
<p>Coolweather, I am going to post one last time on this thread and walk away. I do not receive cash and pay more than my fair share of taxes. I also have one at private college with no financial aid and one entering a private college in the fall with no financial aid.
It is ridiculous to say that only salaried parents pay big time.</p>
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By the way I saw many CA small business owners make a lot of money and their kids still receive financial aids because the parents receive cash. Only salaried parents pay big time.
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<p>Yeap, we are the idiots that play by the rules.</p>