<p>@deborah</p>
<p>:) school loyalty runs high here !</p>
<p>@drax
Dude, no one is hating UCLA here. UCLA is a cool school. No need to be defensive</p>
<p>Did you even look at all the data for the link you provided?</p>
<p>Engineering, 4.03. What extra credit? … no rather, weighted gpa.</p>
<p>Here are a couple of examples, </p>
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<li><p>[Palos Verdes Hs](<a href=“http://www.pvhigh.com/CCC/pdf/CCC_Student_Profile_2010.pdf”>http://www.pvhigh.com/CCC/pdf/CCC_Student_Profile_2010.pdf</a>). The mean uw gpa is 3.68, w gpa of 4.17.</p></li>
<li><p>[PV</a> Peninsula HS](<a href=“http://www.pvpusd.k12.ca.us/penhi/collegeacceptance/collegeacceptance2010.pdf]PV”>http://www.pvpusd.k12.ca.us/penhi/collegeacceptance/collegeacceptance2010.pdf). I count ~ 11 matriculants to SLO, with uw gpa of ~ 3.53 and w gpa of ~ 3.88.</p></li>
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<p>The profiles of 1) are above the average for most schools; 2) are closer to the means of schools. I think PV’s students are probably better overall.</p>
<p>Deborah T, I’m not trying to insult SLO. I like SLO – no SLO hating here; I just wanted to point some things out wrt gpa, that’s all. We cool?</p>
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I’ve seen just the opposite on CC - but I hang out mostly in the Parents Forum.</p>
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I haven’t noticed any smog issues in the UCLA area but UCLA isn’t far from the ocean where the prevailing winds are coming in from. Downtown and east of downtown is a different story.</p>
<p>^^^
I work right smack in the middle of downtown LA (near the Angel’s Flight if anybody knows where that is) and haven’t noticed much smog there myself in a long time. I live right on the coast (coincidentally in a city referenced a couple posts up), and can’t tell the difference. Maybe I’m immune to it. </p>
<p>Or maybe I renmember how horrible it was growing up, with the brown inversion layer and going out to the Pomona fairgrounds and being completely unable to breathe. I’m certain it’s a lot better now.</p>
<p>Just to throw in here…many, many High Stat kids who get into UCSD end up choosing UCD or UCSB because many kids view UCSD as socially dead and a grinder school. Also, the college system w/ different core really turns many away. Also, after the first year everyone scatters to apartments not close to campus so the campus life after the dorms is pretty limited. </p>
<p>UCSD is a great school, but don’t assume if a student doesn’t get into UCB or UCLA they choose UCSD because of rank. Just not so.</p>
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<p>Instead of SDSU, San Diego area kids who live north of the 56 are directed to Cal State San Marcos - not even close to being comparable. San Marcos is much newer, smaller, with no academic reputation, and not offering nearly so many majors and programs as San Diego State.</p>
<p>Los Angeles air quality has gotten much better. There was <em>one</em> smog alert day in 2010 – the first in five years.</p>
<p>The smog is worse in Wyoming nowadays!
[Wyoming’s</a> smog exceeds Los Angeles’ due to gas drilling](<a href=“Wyoming's smog exceeds Los Angeles' due to gas drilling”>Wyoming's smog exceeds Los Angeles' due to gas drilling)</p>
<p>UCLA is in the NW of LA and is far away from the smog area. USC is nearer to the smog area.</p>
<p>[AQMD</a> GIS Maps](<a href=“ArcGIS Web Application”>ArcGIS Web Application)</p>
<p>According to the American Lung Association, air pollution among cities is still pretty bad in LA. Although it looks like overall Bakersfield is even worse:</p>
<p>[Most</a> Polluted Cities: State of the Air 2011 - American Lung Association](<a href=“http://www.stateoftheair.org/2011/city-rankings/most-polluted-cities.html]Most”>http://www.stateoftheair.org/2011/city-rankings/most-polluted-cities.html)</p>
<p>Excerpt:</p>
<p>Worst Ozone Levels</p>
<h1>1: Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA</h1>
<h1>2: Bakersfield-Delano, CA</h1>
<h1>3: Visalia-Porterville, CA</h1>
<h1>4: Fresno-Madera, CA</h1>
<h1>5: Sacramento–Arden-Arcade–Yuba City, CA</h1>
<p>Worst Year-Round Particles </p>
<h1>1: Bakersfield-Delano, CA</h1>
<h1>2: Visalia-Porterville, CA</h1>
<h1>2: Phoenix-Mesa-Glendale, AZ</h1>
<h1>2: Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA</h1>
<h1>5: Hanford-Corcoran, CA</h1>
<p>Worst Short-Term Particles </p>
<h1>1: Bakersfield-Delano, CA</h1>
<h1>2: Fresno-Madera, CA</h1>
<h1>3: Pittsburgh-New Castle, PA</h1>
<h1>4: Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA</h1>
<h1>5: Salt Lake City-Ogden-Clearfield, Utah</h1>
<p>The problem with such a report, is that Riverside is far worse than Westwood, and including them together is a spin (or a misuse of good data).</p>
<p>The geography of the SoCal basin makes the western coastal cities much clearer than those inland. The wind and air currents are generally from the west – bringing clean air off of the ocean (and over Westwood) and push the smog inland. The mountains that rim the basin block the smog from going into the desert. Thus, Riverside and SB have much worse pollution than the wests-side cities.</p>
<p>^^^
Well, it technically doesn’t say it’s “pretty bad.” It says it’s worse than other places. Nobody else has to believe it, but at least for myself I trust my own nose and lungs more than even the American Lung Association. It is way better than it was before. If not, they should just get rid of all the NOX and SOX controls at industrial facilities, and get rid of these stupid smog control devices and smog checks on cars.</p>
<p>^ Yup. The map <a href=“ArcGIS Web Application”>ArcGIS Web Application; was green 1 hour ago, now it becomes yellow.</p>
<p>drax:</p>
<p>Perhaps CalPoly cannot read or follow instructions (ala UCLA). And you are probably correct. SDSU has a similar gpa, but they clearly state that it is weighted capped.</p>
<p>Huum. 25% accepts for Berkeley and UCLA. Very definitely differences in popularity and selectivity.</p>
<p>I think charging differently is a good idea. I also think all colleges should consider doing this, not just the UCs.</p>
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<p>Do you suggest less selective colleges to decrease tuition or more selective colleges to increase tuition?</p>
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The same is true of UCLA and UCB. Both of my kids were accepted to UCB but both decided to go to a different UC. There’s more to the decision than a USNWR ranking which is why I said ‘popularity’ would be a driving factor in the ability to charge a higher fee relative to the other UCs.</p>
<p>Thanks, bluebayou… </p>
<p>‘weighted capped gpa’ is for 10-11th grades. U’s don’t make the adjustment for final gpas at graduation of a student. So on one hand, uw gpa could go down, but w gpa most certainly would go up. So wrt those hss I listed, it’s not unusual to see 4.9 w gpas. For university reporting purposes, a capped would at best be 4.5 or so.</p>
<p>One thing the stepped-up tuition for Cal and UCLA could lead to is privatization, which the Regents have discussed before. </p>
<p>If they’re poking around trying to save the state the cost of educating ~ 185K undergrads, they should just privatize both schools, and reduce enrollments of both. </p>
<p>185 - 50K would be state support for just 135K, a reduction of state support of 27%. This could stabilize tuition for the others.</p>
<p>Cal and UCLA wouldn’t be fully private, but more semi-private.</p>
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<p>Considering the current financial situation, I think it would have to be an increase in tuition at the more selective colleges.</p>