<p>I have a couple quick questions about UCSB since I have to apply there by the end of the year. My first question is what's the average GPA for the Freshman? I read somewhere that it was 3.8 but I think it lied becuase I know people who got in there with crappy grades. And my last question is what are my chances of getting in? I have a 2.7 GPA right now, but I'm taking summer school to raise a few of my grades. And my highest SAT score was 1678 and I read somewhere that the average is 1800, which again I think is a lie. I still haven't taken the two years of a lab science but I have both CP Bio and CP Chem in my senior year. Will they still accept me even though I'm taking it now instead of earlier?</p>
<p>Sorry mathurakrish, but because of your GPA I don't think you're eligible for the UC system. I read on their website that the minimum required GPA is 2.8 and even if you get your GPA up to 2.8 you need very high SAT I and II scores to jump the eligibility hurdle. Even still, UCSB is one of the more selective UC campuses and probably requires more. Good luck!</p>
<p>mathurakrish, </p>
<p>This is no lie... your chances based on information you provided are not good. UC recently increased the minimum H.S. GPA (based on UC's A-G Requirements) from 2.8 to 3.0, effective with the Fall 2007 class. About 75% of UC eligible freshmen earn GPA's of 3.5+ There is also the matter of the two lab science courses that you haven't taken yet, and they would likely look askance at that. Finally your SAT scores are sub-par. </p>
<p>Here are some numbers on UCSB:</p>
<p>Freshman Admission Profile UC Santa Barbara Fall 2006</p>
<pre><code>* Admit Rate Overall: 52.0%
* Admits: 20,720
* Applicants: 39,840
* ELC Student Admit Rate: 97.8%
* California Residents (% of admits): 92.8%
AVERAGES
High School GPA: 3.91
ACT Composite Score: 26
SAT Critical Reading: 609
SAT Mathematics: 631
SAT Writing: 612
</code></pre>
<p>References: </p>
<p>UC Santa Barbara Freshman Admission Profile - Fall 2006:
<a href="http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/selecting/camp_profiles/camp_profiles_ucsb.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/undergrad_adm/selecting/camp_profiles/camp_profiles_ucsb.html</a></p>
<p>UC Santa Barbara Admissions - Selection Criteria:
<a href="http://www.admissions.ucsb.edu/SelectionProcess.asp?section=selectionprocess&subsection=eligibility&selectiontype=prospective_freshman%5B/url%5D">http://www.admissions.ucsb.edu/SelectionProcess.asp?section=selectionprocess&subsection=eligibility&selectiontype=prospective_freshman</a></p>
<p>You know what? I'm not going to lie to you when I say this but I have a friend who was accepted as a freshman for Fall 2006 with your current stats. It made me realize that the school is not hard to get into at all. Oh and my stats weren't so high either and I got in as a "high-achieving applicant" or some crap. I didn't attend and neither did my friend who got in with your stats.</p>
<p>I've been thinking too that they lie about their stats.</p>
<p>NorCalDad, how can you be so sure that those stats are not a false?</p>
<p>Tiberius,</p>
<p>Why would the University of California want to lie? It's got enough problems than to fib on their website. Note that I gave you the links to the UCSB data. If you suspect that they are lying, I would welcome any documented proof to that effect, and you can bet I will take it up with UC. If you have nothing to offer, your unjustified speculation would lack merit, wouldn't it?</p>
<p>Well don't high stats make prospective applicants want to work harder to meet those high standards? Yes I know you gave me linkts to the UCSB data. Now I never said I was sure that those stats were fake but I merely asked how you could be so sure that they weren't false. I never claimed anything but rather stated what I thought could be. Now I suspected the validity of those stats because I know so many people who got in with stats slightly above the minimum.</p>
<p>And I remember reading on these forums that some universities do indeed lie to attract stronger applicants. Someone once stated here that USC's claim that it's admits had an average SAT score of 2100 was probably false but that person did provide some evidence as to why that claim was probably false. Now I'm not exactly stating anything but merely saying why I suspect that those stats could be false.</p>
<p>The 3.91 is the avg gpa for the people that apply. The avg gpa for the people that enroll is 3.76.</p>
<p>They accept a large range of students so it isn't that uncommon when someone gets in with lower stats.</p>
<p>I'm pretty sure you need at least a 3.0 for UCs</p>
<p>beginning with this year's class, the minimum gpa for UC is a 3.0. Unless your UC gpa (Soph and Jr classes) exceeds 3.0, do not waste your money by applying to any UC since your app will be rejected by the computers.</p>
<p>Tiberius, I understand where you're coming from... and while it's generally good to be questioning (after all, that's how we arrived at science and scientific method), it's frivilous to do so without corroborative reasons. </p>
<p>That said, all of the UC campuses have comprehensive review processes that only slightly differ from each other. Standard criteria for admissions is established through the oversight by the UC Board of Admissions & Relations with Schools (BOARS). In setting criteria/factors for admissions evaluations, they also provide some latitude by each campus to weight factors with slightly different emphasis, though without great disparity. The major criteria are in academic preparation, as measured by UC GPA, SAT/ACT test scores, academic rigor via AP courseload, etc. In the case of UCSB, they say (and I have no reason to believe they're lying about this) that GPA accounts for about 60% of the total weighting. Applicants are also evaluated for academic promise, a more subjective evaluation that may consider personal challenges, adversity and success in persevering and overcoming these obstacles. Conceivably, an applicant with outstanding character as measured by these factors of academic promise may indeed have lower academic stats.</p>
<p>Reference: UC Board of Admissions & Relations with Schools:</p>
<p>Tiberius, if an applicant does not have a a 3.0, he is not even eligible. so why are you even argueing your point. ucsb is not an easy school to get into, and ih ave never heard anyone get accepted as a freshmen with much under a 3.5, and decent sat's. it seems very very tough to believe that your friend got into ucsb as a freshmen with under a 3.0 a year or two ago, and under todays uc guidelines, it would be impossible.</p>
<p>Tiberius, if an applicant does not have a a 3.0, he is not even eligible. so why are you even argueing your point. ucsb is not an easy school to get into, and ih ave never heard anyone get accepted as a freshmen with much under a 3.5, and decent sat's. it seems very very tough to believe that your friend got into ucsb as a freshmen with under a 3.0 a year or two ago, and under todays uc guidelines, it would not be possible.</p>
<p>Tiberius, if an applicant does not have a a 3.0, he is not even eligible. so why are you even argueing your point. ucsb is not an easy school to get into, and ih ave never heard anyone get accepted as a freshmen with much under a 3.5, and decent sat's. it seems very very tough to believe that your friend got into ucsb as a freshmen with under a 3.0 a year or two ago, and under todays uc guidelines, it would be impossible.</p>
<p>Ummmm, first of all I am not even arguing at all. Of course it would be impossible under the new guidelines but my friend applied when the new guidelines were yet to be implemented.</p>
<p>Ok thanks.</p>