<p>its also called Management Information Sytems</p>
<p>MIS</p>
<p>Is it a good/lucrative degree to have? Does it have any potential in the job market?</p>
<p>i know a guy in MIS who now works in a different field for some reason.</p>
<p>he said MIS starting salaries are in the 40s or so.</p>
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Looking over the CS requirements at Irvine, I am shocked to see they don't require Multivariate Calculus. This should be a required class.
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Just because you've taken some programming classes don't think that you know better than the professors who make up the friggin requirements.</p>
<p>What is your problem. I never said I was better than them. I just think everyone in the math, science, and engineering should take Multivariate Calculus.</p>
<p>I'm gonna have to side with VTBoy here... I'm kind of surprised that vector's not required for comp sci folks, but maybe it's covered in something else...</p>
<p>//looks up the curriculum...</p>
<p>Wait a sec, were you looking at the degree programs in the Information and Computer Sciences school, or the Engineering school? The ICS degree looks more or less like a degree in information technology. That's not programming, that's computer-wrangling. The bachelors degree in comp science and engineering that's offered through the engineering school requires just as much math as their electrical engineering degree, with which it shares a department. That's the degree program you were probably thinking of, but I think you were looking at the IT program...</p>
<p>I am refering to the straight CS degree not the CSE one.</p>
<p>The ICS school offerse an ICS degree and a regular CS degree. Neither requires multivariate calculus or vector calculus.</p>
<p>OK. Even so, there's a specific discrete math course that's required for the comp sci folks.</p>
<p>Curriculum development's a lot like designing a course. You'd <em>like</em> to include all sorts of things. Unfortunately, there's just not <em>time</em> for them all. So, you design courses for those people in the specific program you're designing that truncates a bunch of other courses, and includes only the things that you absolutely need.</p>
<p>It'd be nice if all the comp sci folks could take vector... Heck, it'd be nice if <em>everyone</em> could take vector! Teach the whole world!... but usually you just have to settle for teaching the things that are really, truly necessary for that field. Having looked through the descriptions of the courses, I see most of the mathy-stuff that I'd need for comp sci folks to learn if I wanted them to write an analysis program for me (which would be nice... honestly, the programs that the engineers try to write to analyze their own stuff and then market to their colleagues are NOT user-friendly or clean or reliable or bug-free...) is included in the courses that they take.</p>
<p>True, Descrete math is probably more important to CS than Calculus is.</p>
<p>I don't know (and maybe it's me) but I would personally make sure comp-sci majors take Linear Algebra.</p>
<p>Knowing about arrays made doing linear algebra/matrix/vector computations so much easier.</p>
<p>Linear algebra, unlike vector calc, was indeed on the list of required courses.</p>
<p>So CS majors don't normally deal with multiple integral?</p>
<p>Like the double integral of 2xy + 3y^2 dxdy.</p>
<p>What about when they work in DSP which requires multivariate calculus? Or is DSP more EE than CS.</p>
<p>Geeze you guys thread jacked...</p>
<p>Sorry about the hijack.</p>
<p>Personally if I was interested in computers I would do CS rather than IS since a CS major would be able to get any job an IS major could, but the reverse isn't true. Also the IS major at Irvine isn't a MIS since it doesn't deal with management. If you want an MIS major than I wouldn't transfer to a UC since they don't offer it.</p>
<p>Santa Cruz does, thats what i was asking about.</p>
<p>Ah, well in that case, I still would take the CS major over an MIS major, and take some Management and MIS classes on the side that interest you. A CS major at UCSC would look better than one at CSULB since it is a more recognized school, but getting it will be very difficult since you are already in a 4 year school.</p>
<p>Yeah, i think i will apply to UCI and UCSC see where i get in. I was thinking about doing MIS at UCSC with a minor in CS cuz i dont think id have to take many more classes.</p>
<p>CS with a minor in a business field would work too.</p>
<p>Minors don't mean much either. Better to major in CS and take some classes for MIS.</p>