we do not know the UF recalculated GPA… however the score of 30 is a perfect spot to be in… 28 or 29 gets a ton of kids in if their recalculated GPA is above 4.4… UF rewards rigor and gpa much greater than they do ACT or SAT… which is 4th or 5th down the list
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And I said that we don’t know the UF GPA - but if i were to assume a 4.1 then it’d be no.
In their Common Data set, UF does include rigor and GPA as most important while test score is less.
Again, it’s a chance me - ask an opinion and get an answer.
We also don’t know if this year will be more competitive than past. Because UF is not TO and never was, that might minimize growth. On the other hand, other similar schools - like UMD - are now skewing higher.
UF calculates the “most common way” with a +1 for AP and .5 for Honors - so it’s likely the weighted listed above is similar to the UF - i.e. perhaps some classes aren’t counted.
Anyway - she asked for a yes / no - not more questions b4 one can answer - so i answered. I don’t get why everyone gets so offended.
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Do we know her UF GPA. 30 ACT is at the bottom of last year’s # (25th %) ut the UF GPA 25th percentile was 4.4.
I think the admission process is more convoluted than just the numbers. A number of kids got in from my DD frined group that had lower stats and those that were at the top were rejected but got into Michigan.
The process is not what it used to be. I’ve advised both of my kids to be fllexible, don’t be mentally committed to any one school and love those who love you back. The key is to apply to a good number of schools, be ok with going to any one of them if the acceptance comes with perks and undestand that the college doesn’t make the person.
My D22 is set on Florida, but got a instate rate at USC and is now waiting for Florida to come up with a similar offer. Most of the state flagships are great schools. We know kids from Penn State who have become very successful as well as those who went to Indiana and Maryland who are doing very well.
Keep your options open and wait until April before becoming overly excited about any one prospect. There were a good number of acceptances from waitlists to very good schools over last 2 years. Upsetting that college admissions has become a tedious nerve wrecking process that these poor kids need to endure. Unfortunately this is what it has become and i think as parents we need to prepare our kids to be patient and not to self destruct if any one school doesn’t immediately accept them.
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I think UF will be tough (FSU would have been easier).
BUT, she’s in at UofSC and if you head on over to the UofSC thread on here, you’ll see that several kids with 1500++ SAT’s have been deferred and waitlisted so congrats to your D on that admit!
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UF doesn’t work like most other schools when choosing who to accept. I know you are OOS but let’s look at instate first.
UF first goes through those applications and selects all applicants that fit the UF profile as determined by UF. Not the averages that we see but UFs actual grouping of what we want students to look at. Those are in the these students qualify. It then goes to a lottery like process - though officially that isn’t the word. It is called something else. Selected from that is acceptance a no is a rejection or a waitlist depending and as the CAP advisors say here it is a true crap shoot. They won’t even guess which students are yes or no.
Moving to OOS. UF will reassess on UF’s scale a GPA to match what the scale would be instate so you don’t necessarily know what your child’s GPA would be to UF. I don’t know the number now but the rules for the school used to be no more than 10% of any given class can be from OOS. UF then plays the same game. Who qualifies? Etc and then that lottery type thing it is. So it’s really impossible to chance anyone. The main thing is it’s an incredible school with many brilliant students and opportunities. All you can do is apply if it feels like you have a fit and like the school and then wait. What does this mean - it actually means all students have a chance if they fall anywhere on the scale of a UF student.
In 2020 my son was surprised when a student in his HS that everyone would say was really an extended reach for UF received the acceptance when many top 10% didn’t. Oh and no not a “yield thing” these were students with bright futures and florida prepay. They would have gone to UF. Where did they wind up FSU, UCF or Florida Gulf Coast.
Good luck to your child.
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This is correct - don’t fall in love with anywhere. Nowhere is assured - and there’s a zillion schools where one could be happy. And there are kids who go to their “dream” that look to transfer after a year.
The truth is, for most jobs, an employer isn’t going to care if you went to Florida or Oregon or Mizzou, etc.
Florida is a fine school - both my kids applied and were accepted. The great thing is - and few there get merit - but full tuition is still a great deal. It’s not as strong as U of SC in-state but at under $30K, it’s still cheap.
Per CDS, in Fall 2020, their acceptance rate was 31%. I believe last year it was 29%.
It’s not an easy get.
The subject line says UF ’ 26 chance.
I simply answered - that if the UF GPA (which we don’t know) is similar to the weighted, I don’t believe the student will get in.
I’m not sure why everyone continues to anguish on what I wrote.
I’m sure OP would like a diversity of opinions - as to yes/no.
I stated if the GPA is similar to what is listed, I don’t believe OP will get in.
I hope I’m wrong.
But OP will have wonderful choices (at Elon, U of SC) regardless. OP was already rejected at UMD - so I’m not so sure why one would find it hard to believe a similar result at UF.
It doesn’t mean it will happen. I’m not an AO. Some kids get into Harvard and rejected at UNC (OOS). I don’t put as much weight into UNC and UVA rejections because they are limited in OOS students whereas UF treats all similarly.
Good luck to OP. It’s time to move on from the comments directed toward me.
Please direct your thoughts to OP - and I’m sure they’d appreciate a yes/no since that’s what they asked for.
Everyone says what you are saying - so I’m not here to dispute it. And maybe something has changed in the last two years.
But UF deems what you say - about # of students at HS and OOS chances - as false. See #1 and #3 in their FAQs.
I believe their lack of geographic diversity has more to do with - if you’re a smart kid in Florida, the Bright Futures or Florida Pre-Pay is so strong - you can’t leave the state (that’s exaggerated). We have friends in TN who started in FL with pre-pay and even their kids went back.
We’ve been through this before with UF. This—“ The percentage of out-of-state students at UF is 16%, which aligns with the rate of out-of-state applications received (vs. in-state)”—tells us nothing about the relative caliber of the in-state vs OOS applicant pools. Additionally, their CDS shows smaller OOS numbers than 16%.
Anecdotes and common sense dictate that there is a much higher bar for an OOS applicant from a high-stats state than there is from an under-represented rural or poor county in FL, and so you can’t assume the test-score distribution is the same. I think an unhooked applicant with a 30 is a true longshot; I’ve heard of too many high GPA/extras/33+ NE kids who were rejected.
Let’s hope I’m wrong.
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I don’t expect to get in and I have a single sitting 35+ACT and go to a famous HS. The problem with going to an ultra competitive private school is that kids in the middle of the class have 34-36 ACTs too and we mostly have GPAs that are lower than typical US schools due to intense competition and school practices (lower than UF averages, which only partially weights/adjusts). I fell in love with UF and hope I get in, but they seem incredibly GPA driven. Fingers crossed.
They always say the AOs know the nuances of each school. Your chances are likely better than you think.
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In my experience, comparing GPA from school-to-school is of little value since one has to consider the various scales ranging from 4.0-6.0 and which classes to weight, whether A+ is a bump or A is the highest, …
To this end, it is easy to calculate a UF admissions GPA using the guidance here: Freshman Student Profile - University of Florida
GPA Recalculation Process
The above range represents the core, weighted GPA on a 4.0 scale that UF calculates as part of the evaluation process. Dual-enrollment courses in core areas and any AP, IB or AICE classes receive an extra 1.0 credit weight, meaning that an A is worth a 5.0 on a 4.0 scale. Pre-AICE, pre-AP, pre-IB and Honors classes receive a 0.5 credit weight, meaning that an A is worth a 4.5 on a 4.0 scale.
UF is fairly transparent given they publish admitted student profiles whereas many schools publish enrolled profiles. Although often conflated, they are not the same- the former being who they accept, the latter representing the yield ( often non-representative sample of admits).
The adjusted GPA only adjusts for class selection, not school grade inflation/disinflation.
what does that mean?
It means there is incredible grade inflation in much of the country where tons of kids have 4.0s unweighted or very close. Doesn’t happen at my school. It’s very difficult to fairly compare GPAs.
Not sure what point you are making here.
If it is that there is no control for an A being easier to obtain at school 1 vs school 2- yes, this is accurate. This is what standardized tests were intended to accomplish.
6.0 weighting, in my opinion, is an example of a fairly recent tactic used to superficially inflate GPA, i.e., 4.5 sounds more impressive than 75-80% ( not all classes are weighted).
Normalizing on a common scale eliminates this variation- this was my point. Also, I believe there were earlier questions about how UF calculates GPA
I agree that’s what test scores should help with, but they are being marginalized. My personal belief (after reading some blogs about grade inflation, etc) is that comparing GPAs between states and type of schools is almost impossible. Within a county, school, state it’s probably somewhat better.
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this is why you being compared to kids at your school not others… and yes the ACT/SAT is being minimized by UF and others… this holistic approach is how they get around it. they value grades and rigor a-lot more than the single sitting test
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@iz162728 how did your daughter do ?