UF could potentially be named the State's flagship, take $ from other Universities

<p>Senator Evelyn Lynn (a UF grad.) is passing a bill through the Florida Legislature that will name UF as Florida's flagship school, thus redirecting funding, programs, and national, as well as international, attention from every other school in the state. This isn't just a FSU, UCF, USF problem. This applies to EVERY OTHER public university in the state.</p>

<p>Bernie Machen (the UF president) was up at the capitol pimping this bill last week. No other State University president was there, to my knowledge.</p>

<p>Lines 38 though 41 of the bill require that institutions have "… research achievements of an eminent faculty that brings over one-half billion dollars per year into the state economy through external grants and contacts…" to be considered as a flagship school.</p>

<p>Currently, only one school meets this requirement – the University of Florida.</p>

<p>Once again, this isn't just a FSU, UCF, USF problem. This applies to EVERY OTHER public university in the state.</p>

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<p>The Bill:
<a href="http://myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Documents/loaddoc.aspx?FileName=_s2442__.DOCX&DocumentType=Bill&BillNumber=2442&Session=2010%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Documents/loaddoc.aspx?FileName=_s2442__.DOCX&DocumentType=Bill&BillNumber=2442&Session=2010&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>here are all of the addresses for Florida Legislature:
EYE</a> ON MIAMI: Email addresses for Florida legislature</p>

<p>and here's a link to find YOUR senator:
Senators</a> :Find Your Legislators : flsenate.gov</p>

<p>BTW it doesn’t outright say “UF will be named the state’s flagship,” but UF is the only school to meet the qualifications set.</p>

<p>[Senate</a> bill would designate UF as state’s elite school | Gainesville.com](<a href=“http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100326/ARTICLES/100329564/1002?Title=Senate-bill-would-designate-UF-as-state-s-elite-school]Senate”>http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100326/ARTICLES/100329564/1002?Title=Senate-bill-would-designate-UF-as-state-s-elite-school)</p>

<p>“Adams and Machen said the proposal does not bring more money to the university.”</p>

<p>The bill is not really about money, as no money would be allocated to UF through the bill’s passage.</p>

<p>It seems more to be about dividing the universities into tiers, allowing specialization, kind of like the UC system, which actually wouldn’t be that bad of an idea when you consider how highly many of the UC’s are ranked. </p>

<p>There is some discussion on this in this thread.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/890782-uf-declared-elite-university-law.html?highlight=Florida[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/890782-uf-declared-elite-university-law.html?highlight=Florida&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I haven’t heard boo about their positions on this bill from any of the administrators or trustees at any of the other Florida public universities…just UF! Are the other universities just going to roll over and let this bill pass unamended or uncontested?</p>

<p>Facebook petition–contact your legislators: </p>

<p>[Petition</a> to halt UF from receiving flagship university status | Facebook](<a href=“Facebook Public Group | Facebook”>Facebook Public Group | Facebook)</p>

<p>Forget the petition - contact your state representative and senator and have everyone else do likewise. Tell them to kill SB 2442.</p>

<p>I’ve already contacted Representative Gus Bilirakis about this. </p>

<p>Absolutely ridiculous.

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<p>It was posted on Facebook and the FSU Rivals site as well. Contact your representatives now.</p>

<p>It will never pass.
The University system has been carved up into so many fiefdoms since the dissolution of the Board of Trustees that the local politicos that control the purse strings will do anything to protect any perceived loss in their power.</p>

<p>Other than branding one university a "flagship”, it sounds like a good idea.</p>

<p>Just look at USF’ main campus in Tampa and how it is losing its new Pharmacy program to USF Polytechnic in Polk county because State Senator JD Alexander wants to bring it into his district.</p>

<p>With this law, the Board of Governors would stop this nonsense.
Same with that Hurricane Center @ UCF that FSU already has.</p>

<p>I am fine with tiers and clearly FSU and UF and maybe USF would be in the top tier. But UF alone - with likely first rights of refusal on every good thing a university would want? </p>

<p>Hell NO.</p>

<p>I suspect UF is trying this in this legislative session because:</p>

<ol>
<li> FSU has a new president</li>
<li> Senator Lynn is a UF grad</li>
<li> Jeff Atwater, the current Senate President, is a UF grad</li>
<li> Dean Cannon (huge UF fan) is in line to be speaker of the house</li>
<li> Senator Jim King (staunch FSU supporter and long time senator) died last year</li>
</ol>

<p>Matt, This is state business, Bilirakis is a US Congressman (and a UF grad). Make sure you contact your state legislators. Might as well do petition too, but most importantly remind your friends and relatives to call their legislators, mail letters, faxes, email, etc. Most importantly people that are key contacts and know legislators personally–make sure to get them moving.</p>

<p>Yes - STATE legislators: [MyFlorida.com</a> - Taxonomy - Legislative Branch](<a href=“http://www.myflorida.com/taxonomy/government/legislative%20branch/]MyFlorida.com”>http://www.myflorida.com/taxonomy/government/legislative%20branch/)</p>

<p>Contact:</p>

<p>Your state representative (in state House of Representatives: <a href=“http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Representatives/representatives.aspx[/url]”>Site Map :: Florida House of Representatives; )
Your state senator (in state Senate: <a href=“http://www.flsenate.gov/legislators/[/url]”>http://www.flsenate.gov/legislators/&lt;/a&gt; )
The Governor (Charlie Crist - FSU Grad: <a href=“http://www.flgov.com/gov_biography[/url]”>Administration Office)</p>

<p>Wasn’t even thinking. Sent one to Ronda Storms as well.</p>

<p>The legislators have to work fast too because the feds are snooping around Florida a lot lately and they might not be able to vote after some get run out of Tallahassee or maybe get arrested soon.</p>

<p>Just sent a form letter to every one of my representatives and senators, along with Gov. Crist. Every single person on this board should do the same.</p>

<p>I suggest personalizing the letters/emails/phone calls as you are able. </p>

<p>Legislators like form letters like everyone else. ;)</p>

<p>Jim King isn’t around to help out FSU in the state senate anymore, but he is probably laughing pretty hard about the prayer offered in his memory yesterday in Tallahassee:</p>

<p>[When</a> senators prayed to ‘Our economy sucks’](<a href=“http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/2010/04/the-day-senators-prayed-to-our-economy-sucks.html#more]When”>http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/2010/04/the-day-senators-prayed-to-our-economy-sucks.html#more)</p>

<p>Ryan82 (post #3),</p>

<p>whether we are talking about physical money or not, that’s what it all comes down to in the end. Having first dibs on everything another University would love to have is a very valuable power. And it brings more money to UF in ways you just aren’t seeing.</p>

<p>Consider the students who will choose UF over other schools simply because of it’s lone-standing top-tier status. Consider the international audience who grants money and even funds research projects. Putting UF on a pedestal will definitely bring more money and prestige to the state, but in return the rest of the schools will suffer. This is not the answer.</p>

<p>I support a flagship system. But you can’t have a flagship system with just one university. And don’t even bring UC, which much more than one flagship, into this discussion.</p>

<p>Legislators listened to outcry:</p>

<p>[The</a> word ‘flagship’ cut from bill that would rank universities as elite | Gainesville.com](<a href=“http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100407/ARTICLES/4071008/1002/NEWS01?Title=-Flagship-cut-from-bill-that-would-rank-universities-]The”>http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100407/ARTICLES/4071008/1002/NEWS01?Title=-Flagship-cut-from-bill-that-would-rank-universities-)</p>

<p>Amendment to SB 2442: <a href=“http://www.flsenate.gov/data/session/2010/Senate/bills/amendments_Com/pdf/sb2442c1446304.pdf[/url]”>http://www.flsenate.gov/data/session/2010/Senate/bills/amendments_Com/pdf/sb2442c1446304.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>FSU won this one. :)</p>

<p>I definitely support this amended bill. It needs to pass.</p>