<p>As some of us predicted last year, University Florida has fallen 6 spots behind Miami in the USNews 2011 rankings.</p>
<p>UMiami # 47 (with Penn State and U of I Champaign)</p>
<p>U Florida # 53 (behind Tulane)</p>
<p>No longer in the top 50. Thanks a lot Machen.</p>
<p>By a lot of rankings, UF is still the best school in Florida.</p>
<p>Forbes Rankings:</p>
<p>University of Florida #93</p>
<p>University of Miami #293</p>
<p>I also wouldn’t blame Machen, US News is usually biased against public institutions.</p>
<p>if you plan on working in the state of florida after graduation, you have to be ■■■■■■■■ to take that ranking into consideration when making a decision about where to go.</p>
<p>Completely agree, at the end of the day the rankings don’t matter. Both publications are trying to sell magazines, so they will consistently change the rankings.</p>
<p>Comparing UM and UF is basically comparing apples and oranges.</p>
<p>UM and UF are both great schools of almost equal caliber regardless of what the rankings at any websites say. Let’s just all get along :)</p>
<p>And, let’s all celebrate the fact that as of this year the state of Florida has two additional Universities listed under a Tier 1 classification. Welcome to the club, USF and UCF.</p>
<p>NOW the rankings don’t matter.</p>
<p>Glad we can all agree. :D</p>
<p>I think the rankings do matter, and it’s disappointing that UF has fallen behind, but I don’t blame Machen. It’s a symptom of the bad economy hurting UF more, because of the budget cuts, since we’re a public school. We’ll rebound.</p>
<p>Just lucky we have a real endowment, unlike a certain other state school that hasn’t beaten us in football since 2001.</p>
<p>Here is some data for you to chew on, just to show how bogus the USNWR system is. Yes, the rankings matter when people are ignorant as to how flawed they are and take them as gospel, which unfortunately many do.</p>
<p>UC Davis, ranked #39</p>
<p>CR SAT (25th-75th%): 520-630
15% of students below the national average</p>
<p>U Miami</p>
<p>CR SAT (25th-75th%): 570-680
6% of students below the national average</p>
<p>U Florida</p>
<p>CR SAT (25th-75th%): 560-670
1% of students below the national average</p>
<p>For good measure</p>
<p>Tulane</p>
<p>CR SAT (25th-75th%): 630-720
1% of students below the national average</p>
<p>I admit that I took CR because it is the most dramatic, but writing about the same, math a little better, but the totals are well less than these other schools. Also the ACT is significantly less. I know test scores are just a piece of the picture, but come on! #39 with those scores?? UCSB and UC Irvine not much better picture.</p>
<p>Someone tell me how a school that has that many students below the national average is a top 40 institution. Also please tell me how it can rank above a school (Tulane) where its 75th% score is barely more than Tulane’s 25th% score. Yeah, those college counselors and the others really know their stuff. UC Davis Counselor rating: 4.2; Tulane 4.0; Miami 3.8; Florida 3.8. Does anyone else think there is something that smells really bad here?</p>
<p>I also noticed on the UC Davis data set that 100% of their students were in the top 10% of their class!!! RIGHT!!! Makes you wonder what else they fudge.</p>
<p>^^ Maybe they put that 100% of students in the top 10% were in the top 10%.</p>
<p>LOL, surely not.</p>
<p>The UCali system has consistently been ranked as the best public system in the US. Berkley? That’s a public school. And with the UC system, you can only apply to one, so probably the entire school is top 10%. I, personally, do not care about rankings because it is the reputation of the school that carries you further. UF has a lot of southern regional influence. We’ll rebound in the rankings, though.</p>
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<p>Koolgecko91 - There is no way that the entire school is top 10%. If you even sketch out a few numbers regarding the kids that go to UCLA, Berkeley, privates, out of state, etc. the numbers just don’t add up. It just defies common sense anyway. Even Berkeley is humble enough to say that 98% are from top 10%, and to mark it as an estimate. And their average SAT scores are way higher. So are UCLA’s, and they say 97%.</p>
<p>Sure, I could invent scenarios where it comes out that the kids that go to Davis happen to be in the top 10%. I can also write sci-fi books.</p>
<p>No hate for the UF parents that are a little upset but I remember when I came on this forum during application time US News was constantly used to compare UM, FSU and UF. I hate rankings too btw but I just find it funny. Also the rankings seem to have dropped because of the less weight placed on peer review?</p>
<p>I think this is karma for Machen’s Peer-Assessment survey scandal last year, where he ranked every school in Florida other than UM and FSU either 1 or 2 out of 5. (And he gave both UM and FSU a 3.)</p>
<p>I find it hilarious that all of the sudden everyone on here is screaming that rankings don’t matter, while it was exactly the opposite when I was applying in 08.</p>
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<p>thats the funniest part about this thread. Wait till we go back up, then the attitude is going to bounce back.</p>
<p>I’m not saying rankings don’t matter it’s just some people place more emphasis on them because it is truly the only “objective” means of comparing schools but even that is subjective. I got into UF but rejected by school ranked lower than UF. I didn’t look at rankings until after I was making a decision between UF, FSU, and New College. UF was higher ranked in research in my field so I’m coming here.</p>
<p>This definitely hilarious! The higher UF ranking has been an obsession in these forum for years, and the number one point of comparison to UM without forgetting FSU and USF. At some point, a poster even wrote to Machen! asking him to game the rankings!</p>
<p>How about refreshing some memories? </p>
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<p>Tom must be having a really bad day today. I feel for him. It must be painful to hear people now say, the University of Miami is the number ONE ranked school in the state.</p>
<p>idgaf about rankings. whats important is alumni and prestige in state.</p>
<p>the only people in florda who care about miami are in miami.</p>
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Au Contraire regarding the “only objective means” statement. I think most people could create a reasonably sized list of schools based on academics (A table of average SAT/ACT scores and GPA of admitted and attending students would suffice here), size (another easy table), Geography (also easy), and whatever other factors are important to them, if even those are. Oh, and finances of course, also easy to find. Once it is down to some workable number of safety, match and reach schools, one can use any of the numerous guides and their web sites to get more of a feel for the school regarding Greek life, majors, whatever. Then hopefully that student can visit all these or at least their top couple of choices in each category, and make some decisions. Very reasonable for such an important decision and it did not have to involve arbitrary rankings at all.</p>