<p>UF is now ranked 47th overall. Tied with Penn State, UT, UCSB, UCD.</p>
<p>In the future look for UF to climb even higher, due to the $1.25 billion capital campaign.
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=227117&highlight=News%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=227117&highlight=News</a></p>
<p>Does anyone know what our ranking is against other public schools? Are we top ten?</p>
<p>Almost a top ten (We are tied for 12th.) Give it a couple more years and we will be. We are about to become the University of Michigan of the South.</p>
<p>Uf - 47</p>
<p>Um - 54</p>
<p>Fsu - 110</p>
<p>What do you think that UF will be ranked next year? What was done this year to produce such a gain?</p>
<p>It's really hard to say where UF will ultimately end up in next years rankings. I think that the future is very bright, but on the other hand don't expect to jump 3 spots year-in and year-out. It takes time, money, sacrifice, and hard work to gain significantly over a decade. Keep in mind that UF was tied for the 27th overall best public (back in the early 90's), whereas now we are tied for the 13th overall best public. I don't believe that the administration really did anything out of the ordinary for the 2005 - 2006 year, but instead have been keeping to the President & Board of Trustees plans for improvement. We have a very good group of leaders running the university, in addition there are alot of external factors helping UF: Florida's booming economy, a very strong alumni base, the sheer population that has migrated to the state, name recognition via the Gator Nation, etc...</p>
<p>UF is going to need to improve the student-faculty ratio to move into the top 10. And that is likely going to take a tuition increase.</p>
<p>Agreed, but if they do inprove this ratio, they will compete with Michigan, UCLA, Virginia, etc rather than being a hair behind them. Oh, and GO GATORS!!!</p>
<p>um florida is not a hair behind michigan...it still has a long way to go. i go to michigan and im a florida resident and there is a BIG difference when it comes to academic atmosphere.</p>
<p>Ok, how so? Specifically, what makes UM better, other than the fact that you go there. If you go strictly by QUANTIFIABLE date, UF ain't that far behind. Of course, if you use "atmosphere" and other opinion based criteria, you can debate all day long. There are really only 11 numerical slots separating UM and UF, if you take into account the ties. That isn't really much and a good chunk of that is due to the subjective peer assesment score.</p>
<p>exactly, 11 spots is a lot. and then there is 23 spots when you include private universities. and do your research for u of m, the research and laureates we have. UF is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy behind. look at the sat and act averages.</p>
<p>No, it is 11 spots TOTAL including private and public schools. Many of the schools between them are tied, so have the same number, therefore there are 11 nymerical slots separating UF and UM, with several of these slots containing several schools. Eleven slots isn't a whole lot, my friend.</p>
<p>SAT UF = 1305
SAT UM = 1330</p>
<p>25 points is NOT a whole lot of ground to gain for a University that is trying to do so.</p>
<p>I think you need to stop pulling the prestige card, and start looking at the broader context of where UF & Michigan are headed in the near future.</p>
<p>Let's keep in mind that UM is located in a terrible state, most of the economy & people are leaving in droves. Whereas Florida is absolutely exploding with new people and business opportunities. It will only be a matter of time before the investments that Florida is doing in biomedical research will pay off big time for UF. So as of right now UF isn't on par with Michigan but in the close foreseeable future look for UF to catch up with UM, UNC, UIUC, Wisconsin (pretty much all the top-10 state universities located in declining states).</p>
<p>This is straight form UF's site.
Middle 50% of the Class</p>
<pre><code>* High School GPA of 3.9 - 4.4
* SAT of 1220 - 1390
* ACT of 26 - 31
</code></pre>
<p>If u look at UF's gpa range, its using WEIGHTED gpa.
This from U of M's site</p>
<h1>Middle 50th percentile of the class</h1>
<pre><code>* ACT Composite of 27–31
* ACT English of 27–33
* ACT Math of 27–33
* ACT Combined English/Writing of 26–31
</code></pre>
<h1>SAT Total of 1900–2160</h1>
<h1>SAT Critical Reading 610–720</h1>
<h1>SAT Math 650–760</h1>
<h1>SAT SAT Writing 610–720</h1>
<h1>Unweighted high school GPA of 3.7–4.0</h1>
<pre><code>* 28% with a 4.0 GPA
* 52% with 3.9 or higher GPA
</code></pre>
<p>So our sat range is 1260-1480 while UF's is 1220-1390. We don't use weighted gpa while u guys do.
Oh as for michigan being in a terrible state, yeah thats true when u refer to the weather. General motor's failure is not the only part of the economy. The governor is actually creating more jobs and boosting the economy. As for state funding U of M's endownment is over 90% percent private. Yeah UF doesnt have that kind of power. Our endownment is over 4 billion dollars and soon will be over 6 billion dollars because of our president's fundraiser. What's UF's again? Oh ya its still in the millions. UF has stem cell research but that will probbably be hindered because of the big conservative population in florida, just like it happeneds in michigan. As for the other universities, I can't say.</p>
<p>Don't get me wrong UF's a great deal, and that only. I went to school in florida and I know the brainwashing that occurs during high school. "Go to school in florida its cheaper, blah, blah, blah, blah". Everyone and their mom at my hs went to UF because they thought it was the only good school besides the ivy league. I know u want UF to be the harvard of south but it would never be harvard...it will always be UF.</p>
<p>"Oh as for michigan being in a terrible state, yeah thats true when u refer to the weather. General motor's failure is not the only part of the economy. The governor is actually creating more jobs and boosting the economy."</p>
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<p>Florida economy - about 600 billion > Michigan economy - about 370 billion</p>
<p>Michigan grew from 1990 thru 2000 by only 600k people. It went from 9.3 million total to just barely over 9.9 million. Whereas Florida grew by over 3 million people over that same period of time. Michigan is clearly in the decline plain and simple.</p>
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<p>"Our endownment is over 4 billion What's UF's again?" </p>
<p>As of the last State of the University address UF is now over the billion dollar mark. We are about to start a multi billion dollar Capital Campaign ourselves. Oh and guess what else? Texas A & M has almost a 5 billion dollar endowment and we are still ranked ahead of them.</p>
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<p>"UF has stem cell research but that will probbably be hindered because of the big conservative population in florida, just like it happeneds in michigan." </p>
<p>As of 2004 Florida was 52.10% Republican and 47.09% Democrat. I am predicting that when Castro dies, Florida will ultimately become a slight Democrat lead.</p>
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<p>"I know u want UF to be the harvard of south but it would never be harvard...it will always be UF."</p>
<p>Sounds to me you have an axe to grind against the state of Florida. I have never met a UF alumni who claims that we are comparable to Harvard. It's the Gator locals that seem to like to make that comparison. Back in the early 90's UF was ranked the 27th overall best public university, whereas today we are ranked the 13th overall best public university.</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan%5B/url%5D">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan</a></p>
<p>"Oh as for michigan being in a terrible state, yeah thats true when u refer to the weather. General motor's failure is not the only part of the economy. The governor is actually creating more jobs and boosting the economy."</p>
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<p>Florida economy - about 600 billion > Michigan economy - about 370 billion</p>
<p>Michigan grew from 1990 thru 2000 by only 600k people. It went from 9.3 million total to just barely over 9.9 million. Whereas Florida grew by over 3 million people over that same period of time. Michigan is clearly in the decline plain and simple.</p>
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<p>"Our endownment is over 4 billion What's UF's again?" </p>
<p>As of the last State of the University address UF is now over the billion dollar mark. We are about to start a multi billion dollar Capital Campaign ourselves. Oh and guess what else? Texas A & M has almost a 5 billion dollar endowment and we are still ranked ahead of them.</p>
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<p>"UF has stem cell research but that will probbably be hindered because of the big conservative population in florida, just like it happeneds in michigan." </p>
<p>As of 2004 Florida was 52.10% Republican and 47.09% Democrat. I am predicting that when Castro dies, Florida will ultimately become a slight Democrat lead.</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan%5B/url%5D">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan</a>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida%5B/url%5D">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida</a></p>
<p>Nice use of selective statistics- but let's look beneath the surface of the numbers, they do teach that skill at UM, right? The SAT scores for the top 20% at UM are really high. However, Michigan has the lowest percentage of high school students taking the SAT in the nation. therefore, only the brightest students will be apt to take the SAT. UM, being the best school in the state would naturally attract these students, so yes, the SAT score is higher on the 80th percentile, but there is a much smaller number of test scores because most students in Michigan take the ACT. Msst students in Florida take the SAT. </p>
<p>By the way, the median SAT score for the two schools are only 25 points apart.</p>
<p>Oh, and the ACT scores are statistically just about a dead heat.</p>
<p>IM is more selective, but not so much more as you would have everyone think.</p>
<p>According to this link, there is only 6 selectivity slots separating UM and UF. </p>
<p>UM= 22</p>
<h1>26 (2 way tie)</h1>
<h1>29 (3 way tie)</h1>
<h1>32 (3 way tie)</h1>
<h1>35 (3 way tie)</h1>
<h1>38</h1>
<p>UF= #39</p>
<p>UM is # 3 public
UF is # 10 public</p>
<p>However, UF is currently engaged in an effort to trend towards higher ranking and selectivity levels. To my knowledge, UM isn't, therefore look for the gap to narrow.</p>
<p>I never said that michigan had a better economy but its improving just like UF is improving as a University. Why are you using population growth from the 90's and the year 2000. Im talking about now and governor granholm's intiative to create more jobs. Florida's growth is only due to cheap real estate most pple are moving from up north to florida. Once the real estate levels off florida's growth will too. My point was that U of M's dependibilty on the state economy is far less than UF's because of it's large private endownment. michigan's state growth almost has nothing to do with the university's quality. 30% of the school's population is out of state and another big percentage of international students. More diversity=Better experience. And those non michigan residents will probably leave michigan after graduation.</p>
<p>I never said that Michigan was insanely selective but it is more than UF. How would you explain more level ACT scores for UF, most people in florida take the sat, so stellar out of state pple must take ACT, right. ?....I know, the student population is generally the same. And with the unfortunate ban on affirmative action, u of m will probably become more selective.
According to the US News U of M is tied for second place with UVA for public institutions and UF is #12. And u of t is actually tied with UF for spot #47.</p>
<p>If castro dies, how do u assume that florida will become more democratic?Do you think that cuba will become a republic and cubans will be able to come to the US? even though fidel's brother will come into power and enforce radical commmunism. Is it because cubans are hispanic and hispanics therefore vote democratic? According to Federal voting statistics, Cubans generally vote REPUBLICAN especially with moral issues such as gay marriage, abortion and stem cell research. Does UF teach to make ignorant assumptions? Do you even go to UF?</p>
<p>How about that the tuition for University of Michigan is more than $9000 for in-state students, while University of Florida is merely $3000 for in-state students. With that much more financial resource, of course UM has a better chance at competing with other public universities.</p>