Ugh, my mom.

<p>yea..this thread wouldn't be about which one is better if you didn't <em>start</em> making a point plme is harder to get in. i am not the only one here to point out your false "advice".</p>

<p>obnoxious PM? you mean my short response "thanks! very insightful <sarcasm>" to your seemingly pointless message dumped into my mailbox? why were you telling me URMs need lower scores and asians need higher stats? i am outta here. it's been a pleasure to "meet" you.</sarcasm></p>

<p>My son was not a Val but he was in the top 2% of his class - and yes, he did have 2300 on his SATs and 750-800 on all his SATIIs. </p>

<p>We're not real big on rankings per se so I won't get into which school has the best program. I think kids will thrive at schools offering the educational and social environments that fit them best. </p>

<p>Who knows what Brown (or any school) is looking for? My son didn't apply to Northwestern or NJ schools. He interviewed for REMS but wasn't offered a slot. At UMiami, he was offered the Singer Scholarship (full tuition) but didn't get into the med pgm. He knows a kid who got into REMS but not PLME. Kids in all of these programs are high achieving, mature, self-motivated kids who will succeed wherever they wind up.</p>

<p>I think those programs are looking for self-motivated with true medicine passionate kids. That is why interviews and essays are important at this point, not the number itself. Medical schools want to know all of those HIGH SCHOOL students’ decision made by their self, not by their parents. The ~60% of kids would change their major in the colleges I guess. I know someone dropped out the program at 1st year of college because of interest change. My son had SAT @2280 (one set only) and got into one of top programs. But he has strongly shown his interest and personal experience at medicine.</p>

<p>Oops, forgot to say that my son is in PLME at Brown. So many applicants are high academic achievers - I think it's the essays where you need to show what you're all about, why you'd fit in, and what you'll bring to Brown.</p>

<p>Frankly I think these super-selective programs need to start using harder exams than the SAT, which are so easy that they lose discriminatory power among the top scorers. A shift to the LSAT, believe it or not, might actually make sense.</p>

<p>^Interesting.</p>