UGRAD - Oxford VS IVY LEAGUE

<p>Hey,</p>

<p>I am a senior student from Asia and plan to apply to both universities in the Uk - Oxbridge and in the USA - The Ivy League. In addition to others....</p>

<p>In terms of field of study, I am starting to tend towards the Social Sciences; Economics, Business..... But naturally care about reputation and brand name as well</p>

<p>Many have told me that the Uk is better for UGRAD education as they place a good emphasis on undergraduate, whereas the US universities place more on RESEARCH AND GRADUATE Programs and have undergraduate degrees which are more general and broad. (hence one program being 3 and the other 4 years..)</p>

<p>As a senior student here I have had a braod education, taking 11 subjects in my senior year. (all of which would be equivalent to or near Honors level)</p>

<p>Which would be better if you have both, and NO FINANCIAL DIFFICULTIES?</p>

<p>I really dont know where I want to work, but I have a European passport and a green card so i am keep to work in the west. I am well aware that going to the Uk does not stop one from working in the US and vice versa but do they in some way handicap you ?</p>

<p>Thank you very much in advance for your help!</p>

<p>Well, most of the students on here are from the US and they attend mostly colleges i0n the United States. So any answer you get will probably be biased towards the Ivy League. There are many top liberal arts colleges and smaller universities in the US that place more focus on undergraduate studies. Dartmouth and Brown are two Ivy institutions that have this reputation. This really depends on where you want to work. Generally, if you want to work in the US, you should go to college in the US since the job recruiting is better, especailly at the high caliber of schools you are choosing from. British universities don't seem to have a lot of pull in the US, but that's just my opinion. I'm not sure how the Brits view American degrees.</p>

<p>Bottom line: Oxford is just as good as any top American university for most programs of study.</p>

<p>Well if you want the best undergrad econ in the world, then come to U of Chicago.</p>

<p>In terms of education both Oxford and the top American universities are, IMO, pretty muhc equivalent. While ivy league and american colleges focus on a more all rounded, liberal arts education, oxford has the tutorial 1:1 system with your profs, provided that you know for sure you ONLY wanna do, say, history for the next three years or so. </p>

<p>financially since you have a europan passport i am not sure how you will be charged; but oxford has virtually no financial aid in any kind whatosever, and they will charge the full amount for internationals. since im not sure whether how they will classify you, i'd say the costs at this pt between oxofrd vs ivy league will virtually be the same. </p>

<p>yeh, the english undergrads have a lot more emphasis in graduate education not becase the unis themselves choose it to be that way, but you have; by only applying for one subject you have virtually locked in for only that subject. the tutorial system that oxford has (look it up on their website) is probaly the best facet of an oxford education</p>

<p>Oxford and Ivy League are quivelent in education. However most people who go to the Ivy League dont care as much about education as they do about political connections they make. At Oxford any political connections you make will be absolutely useless unless your trying to become a MP. Bill Clinton went to Oxford except he went to Yale Law School first, which presented him with all his connections. Personally I'd recommend Ivy League, its a lot more useful in the US unless you plan to live in England</p>

<p>don't be ignorant. You can't apply to both Oxford and Cambridge at the same time, so don't call it Oxbridge</p>

<p>That's true, Sorry about that... I am leaning towards oxford more than cambridge...</p>

<p>But what about the quality of education from Oxford VS that from US universities at the UGRAD level ?</p>

<p>Quality in your major - Oxford
Quality of overall education - Ivies</p>

<p>Best education in the world - the 'little Ivies'</p>

<p>Cambridge is better than Oxford in Economics. LSE is also awesome. Warwick is not far behind. UCL is also excellent.</p>

<p>As for which country has better universities, I should think they are very different. In terms of reputation, Cambridge (along Oxford and to a lesser extent, LSE) are probably the only UK universities that are as recognized at the top US universities.</p>

<p>Oxford and Cambridge are the only universities which Harvard cannot belittle. They make the Ivies look like amateurs. The Ivies like to claim 300-400 years of history, but Oxford and Cambridge have nearly 1000 years of history.</p>

<p>Hmm actually I heard from one of my friends (currently studying in UCL) that Oxford isn't all that its hyped up to be. He said that Cambridge was much better than it. How accurate his assessment is I do not know...</p>

<p>If you are not sure of what you want to major in I suggest going to US (you know that the Ivy League schools aren't necessarily the best or top ranked here right?) where you have more time to choose your major. On the other hand UK schools would probably give you more in depth knowledge about your major. </p>

<p>My advice is to apply to both continents and see where you get in and then decide.</p>

<p>Oh and burnedout21 the age of a university has little to do with its current reputation. The University of Bologna is even older than Oxford and yet I doubt anyone here is going to argue that because of that fact it is somehow better!</p>

<p>My co-worker at my internship (who by strange coincidence is also now at UCL) said that Cambridge isn't all that great.</p>

<p>Well one thing is for sure...I'm glad I opted for an Ivy League school myself ;)</p>

<p>You really like to capitalize things, don't you? :rolleyes:</p>

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In terms of field of study, I am starting to tend towards the Social Sciences; Economics, Business

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That's enough to make me question if you're up for a UK education. If you're not sure exactly what you want to study, the US is probably a better place to look. In any case, the deadline for Oxford is October 15, so you need to decide soon!</p>

<p>Oxford has the tremendous advantage of a unique college system that fosters an intimate learning environment. Harvard and Yale (and Princeton, to some extent) have a residential college system, and Dartmouth is small enough to be intimate. Cornell and Penn, on the other hand, may be overwhelming for someone who's looking for a one-on-one academic environment.</p>