<p>so im still a jr and i know i have a lot of time blah blah</p>
<p>but i was wondering...it seems that uiuc is more well known (as in their reps among other schools) than uic is and i was wondering if it would hurt me if i chose uic over uiuc</p>
<p>im completely apathetic towards sports, and im more of a city person</p>
<p>the only thing i dont like about uic is that its a commuter school</p>
<p>what do u say?</p>
<p>i may want to study law or med, and im a resident of IL</p>
<p>i feel like internships and such would be easier to come by in the city than in uc</p>
<p>is uiuc good for me? or is uic? or are they both good and would it not matter?</p>
<p>If you can get into UIUC, don't even bother with UIC. UIUC is widely regarded as one of the top 10 or 15 public universities, while UIC is a third tier university. The difference in reputation is huge.</p>
<p>Yes, the UIC GPPA program would be one of the few reasons to attend UIC. You're guaranteed a spot at the UIC medical school after college, but there are two catches: you have to graduate with a 3.5 GPA and a 30 MCAT, which is not easy to do.</p>
<p>I'm a premed. I just got accepted to both UIUC and UIC from a Junior College. It took about 6 months before UIC accepted me. And only 1 month before UIUC accepted me. So I think UIC is probably better since they were probably looking for the best students.</p>
<p>Definitely UIUC over UIC. You shouldn't judge which school is looking for 'better' students simply by how long it takes for them to reply...that's ridiculous.</p>
<p>Oh ok my bad. U of I Urbana is 10x better than UIC. I just looked up their stats on US News and its not even close...But I wonder why it took them so long to accept me.</p>
<p>Maybe UIC is poorer and couldn't afford as many admissions staff ;-). If your GPA and SAT are high enough, you'll be admitted to UIUC without a person looking at your application too much, so that could be the case here.</p>
<p>I take offense to everyone saying that UIUC is way better than UIC.
-Both UIC and UIUC's medical schools are the same and the college of nursing as well
-I graduated from UIC and the only difference is when you receive your diploma is one says board of trustees at Chicago/Urbana
- I also resent the fact that someone said the caliber of students are lower--I am sorry UIC students do not roam the streets of Champaign in 0 degrees below wearing no coats going from bar to bar (like I have seen when visiting my friends). I simply could not afford to live on campus, so I commuted from home--I did what I had to do to get my degree. In high school, I was athletic and belonged to the"national honor society"--I must be low caliber than...LOL I could conclude that the only reason this was said because there are alot of minority students from the city who attend UIC so the person who posted this comment is making racist comments---
-It doesn't matter where you get your degree from. With the economy being the way it is, it will NOT be easy to find a job</p>
<p>Do not get me wrong UIUC is a good school and I hope I have children that attend UIUC. However, some of the students from UIUC are suburban brats who are spoiled rotten who have never seen a black person in their lives. Sometimes I wonder how some of these students got in such a fine institution when they sit their and party all day and night. Makes you wonder.</p>
<p>"Both UIC and UIUC's medical schools are the same and the college of nursing as well" Yes, but for undergrad there is no comparison.</p>
<p>"I graduated from UIC and the only difference is when you receive your diploma is one says board of trustees at Chicago/Urbana" And that one word is a huge difference.</p>
<p>"I also resent the fact that someone said the caliber of students are lower"</p>
<p>Well, it's true. Let's look at the US News data:
UIUC: 57% in top 10% of high school class, 86% in top 25%, 99% in top 50%
UIC: 23%, 55%, 91%
UIUC: middle 50% range of ACT scores = 25-31
UIC: 20-26</p>
<p>Also, US News ranks UIUC #9 among publics, while UIC is not ranked in the top 64.</p>
<p>"I simply could not afford to live on campus, so I commuted from home--I did what I had to do to get my degree." Yes, and that's very admirable. I'm sure there are some UIC students that are very bright, but it doesn't change the fact that UIC is nowhere as good as UIUC except for a few programs like GPPA.</p>
<p>"I could conclude that the only reason this was said because there are alot of minority students from the city who attend UIC so the person who posted this comment is making racist comments---" UIC is 16% Hispanic and 9% black, while UIUC is 6% Hispanic and 8% black. The difference is there, but it's not huge. Regardless of quality differences, one would expect more Chicagoans (more of whom are minorities) attending UIC than UIUC anyway.</p>
<p>"It doesn't matter where you get your degree from. With the economy being the way it is, it will NOT be easy to find a job." All the more reason one should pick UIUC over UIC.</p>
<p>"Ok so just because I went to UIC, I am considered inferior.......Does ACT score and high school class rank determine future success?" Obviously, you can't say that every UIUC student is better than every UIC student. However, given one student from each school with the same GPA and major, employers will assume that the UIUC student is of higher caliber. Why? Because he got that GPA while competing with students that scored higher on the ACT and had higher class ranks. Certainly, ACT/class rank doesn't determine YOUR future success, but your undergraduate institution does affect the perceptions of employers and graduate schools. If that were not the case, then everyone should just go to the college closest to home and forget about stressing over college admissions.</p>
<p>I will throw in my two cents. First off Jenrik, you are somewhat incorrect to say UIC's and UIUC's medical are the same. They are in the sense that they are part of the same state medical system. However, UIC's medical college is actually the flagship medical college for the system in Illinois and UIUC's medical college actually started as, and is still considered, a branch of that one. So you have a bit more to crow about over UIC than you did.</p>
<p>For undergrad, UIUC is a great place and the state's flagship college. However, UIC has come a long way from the days when it was just a small commuter college. The place is now huge and has great academics. The possible downside, if you want the complete on campus college experience, is that it is still attended heavily by commuting students, although a lot reside there and right around it now. And you also have the City of Chicago in your back yard and if you like big city activities that is hard to beat. Thus, If you want to attend UIC, I would highly recommend it. However, the original poster's assumption that it will be easier to get internships if you are at UIC is not correct. UIUC has huge numbers of summer internships that you can get in Chicago, just as UIC does so that factor is really not a basis for making the decision one way or the other. Also, the original poster is "apathetic to sports," implying that UIUC is sports crazy. In many respects it is but many students have no interest. On the other hand, you are wrong to assume that sports don't matter at UIC. It has many sports teams and its basketball team, in particular, is followed fanatically by many on campus.</p>
<p>I completely agree with the above post. The comment that I didn't like was the fact that the previous poster indicated that the caliber of UIC's students in not as good as UIUC. Being a graduate of UIC, I took offense to that. He basically said that students at UIC were not as talented which is not the case. Some people cannot simply afford to go away and they want a good University of Illinois education in Chicago. I have a freshman in high school and I hope she can go to UIUC or any school. She is going to be a freshman at Waubonsie Valley High School in Aurora. After all, no matter what campus, you are still getting a quality U of I education.</p>
<p>Well, I was accepted to both UIC and UIUC as an undergrad, and I chose to attend UIC because of various factors. I graduated last year with my degree in economics and was accepted to all three law schools that I applied and have a nice job that makes decent money. So, honestly....I think the deciding factor should be WHAT SCHOOL IS BEST FOR YOU. I was able to get a Criminal Justice minor at UIC--something that I couldn't have pursued in Champaign. I also was able to complete a teaching certificate in economics on the UIC campus--again, something that I would not have been able to do in Champaign.</p>
<p>Different programs are rated differently as well. Champaign has an excellent accounting department (rated anywhere between 1 and 3 in the nation). So, if you want to be an accountant...I would go to UIUC over Harvard if that was the career field I hoped to get into. UIC has some highly regarded programs as well that probably outrank UIUC. So, it just depends on what you want to do and where you want to spend your time.</p>
<p>UIC isn't the "party school" that UIUC is. And, I will admit that attending UIC will probably not be the most memorable college experience of your life. But, you are right in the heart of Chicago...which opens up a lot of doors for you as far as interning and finding a job after graduation. Also, I think attending college in a city like Chicago supplements your education in a way that going to a Farm School can't. Lots of culture and various institutions in Chicago than are only a 5 minute bus ride from campus. Oh, and I forgot...Chicago might be one of the best party places in the World. Cam's and Legends don't really measure up to be quite honest.</p>
<p>But, no doubt...as far as respectability goes, Champaign trumps Chicago. And, in all honestly...it should. That is the main campus and they get the bulk of the funds. They also have a more visible, national presence..largely due to sports. But, they have outstanding academic programs too.</p>
<p>Only think I regret about going to UIC is that they don't have a football team. But, my education was first rate, in my opinion. </p>
<p>I was actually hired over a guy who went to UIUC and a girl who went to Michigan State when I applied for my current job...so I think people put WAY TOO MUCH STOCK in where they go and not enough into what you got out the experience.</p>
<p>I would also like to add this: If you are choosing a school based soley on the fact that U.S. News and World Reports has them rated higher than another school...I think you're probably setting yourself up for failure. </p>
<p>You need to go to the school that suits your lifestyle, your needs, and most importantly...HAS YOUR MAJOR. I stress the "major" thing, because I remember people going to schools out of high school that didn't even offer the program they really wanted to do simply because they got into a school that was ranked higher than the ones that did. Just didn't make sense to me.</p>