UIUC: Pre-med and biology: Transfer

<p>I am interested in the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. I would be transferring from a community college and I am a pre-med/biology major. This sheer size of this university is intimidating to me, but it seems to be the best in the state. Can anyone share some insight, comments, and/or opinions about their biology program, classes, competition, course load, etc. How much do the students typically study? Are they stay-up-all-night-studying types? The school has a reputation as a Midwestern Ivy from where I live, and I am curious if it lives up to such a reputation? Is it really THAT hard??? I am a hard worker, but I also want to go to a university where I have a chance at getting good grades because I want to go to medical school. A friend told me not to worry so much because in large universities like that they usually "curve" the grade, so even if you don't do as well as you think, as long as you work hard, you should still receive good grades.</p>

<p>This is crunch time to make a decision soon, so comments are greatly appreciated!</p>

<p>Oh, and other schools that I am interested in include:

  1. Bradley University
  2. Illinois State University
  3. University of Illinois @ Urbana-Champaign
  4. Southern Illinois University @ Carbondale (probably not as interested in)
  5. University of Illinois @ Springfield (probably not as interested in)</p>

<p>I think these are all suitable universities for me and I have found many pros and cons of each. I would dearly love to hear from other members with their opinion of these schools. I’m not an athlete, so I don’t even consider that when considering schools. I would like the academics to be challenging enough, but also manageable for my personal level (I admit that I’m not a rocket scientist, but I’m not dumb either) so that I might maintain the highest possible gpa (to gain entrance into medical school).</p>

<p>I am particularly concerned about reputation. Does anyone know anything about these schools? Class size and teacher interaction are also very important to me. I have never been in a class (high school or community college) with more than 50 people and I think I may prefer the smaller classes. I also have always enjoyed getting to know my professors. I know that UIUC has large classes. What has been your experience with large classes? Did yo ufind them manageable? I think, more or less, I am simply afraid of something with which I have no experience.</p>

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<li><p>Bradley University: They have a very good success rate for their pre-med students getting into medical school. Also, they have smaller classes and many opportunities for undergraduate research. But, they mostly only have regional reputation.</p></li>
<li><p>Illinois State University: They have a nice department and also opportunities for undergraduate research. The classes are a bit larger (60-120), but I think they would be manageable, and they rely less on TAs for teaching. However, this school is not as well known for their biology department.</p></li>
<li><p>University of Illinois @ Urbana-Champaign: Nice campus and academically rigorous. VERY large! The core classes for biology majors are very large (500+), and they rely on TAs extensively. Research is available for undergraduates, but I am told that positions are very competitive and that I am probably at a slight disadvantage as a transfer student. My main concerns with this school are the HUGE class sizes and whether or not I could keep up a high gpa because of this. I consider myself a very hard worker, but nonetheless I have the fear of the unknown in me. I simply am not sure how I could manage such large classes. The student body here I think is much more competitive than the other schools, so perhaps it would be much more challenging?</p></li>
<li><p>Southern Illinois University @ Carbondale: I no longer think this is the ideal school for me. It didn’t seem as rigorous, and was very laid back. I think, on average, the student body is not as motivated. This school seemed to be more geared towards preparing blue-collar type workers (nothing wrong with that, but not quite what I’m after). They also have a party reputation, and I beleive it. Yes, almost all universities have party reputations, but the reputation here is quite bad. Also, in Illinois they have a reputation as the school for students who are less motivated and simply want to party.</p></li>
<li><p>University of Illinois @ Springfield: This is my back-up/safety school; I am more interested in the other schools I mentioned. They definately have small classes, but I am not as interested in their biology department and research, they are not as well funded, and the campus is nearly non-existent. In Illinois, most people have not even heard of this school.</p></li>
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<p>Please, anyone, comment!!! I love to hear from everyone, and I value everyone’s opinions! I am applying to these schools, and I think that I have a very good chance at getting into any of them. I would like to make a decision regarding which one I would most prefer to attend. Your comments will definately help my decision! Please comment your heart out! Thank you! </p>

<p>Oh, and I am concernded about school image/reputation and how that might impact my chances at getting into medical or graduate school. Any comments on this???</p>

<p>Which school would you choose if you were in my position and why?</p>

<p>Of the schools on that list, Urbana-Champaign is your best bet.</p>

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<li>If you’re coming from a community college, you should’ve already had several 1000-level general bio classes and won’t have to put up with the big lectures. (And of you do, take notes and you’ll be fine)</li>
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<p>-I don’t go to UIUC, but I go to a similar school, and the size is nothing to be intimidated about. Once you find your niche, it all of a sudden gets a lot smaller.</p>

<p>-U of I is ranked #5 among public colleges in the US. It has that “Reputation” you’re looking for.</p>

<p>However… I thought U of I-Chicago was the school with the really good biology reputation. Why aren’t you applying there?</p>

<p>sorry its actually ranked 10 among public colleges. The #5 is engineering.</p>

<p>LuckyStarBoy, I assume you meant “100” level courses. I have never heard of a 1000 level course! :slight_smile: Yes, if I decide to transfer to UIUC, I would have all of my general education requirements finished (with the exception of an advanced writing course that I can only complete at UIUC). My biology courses will only transfer as very basic courses. So, I would still have to complete their entire biology core sequence and electives. This would include IB 150 and MCB 150. I think these are supposed to be the largest of the classes. Also, the following core classes are still large, but not as large (e.g. MCB 250). I am glad to have reassurance that perhaps I should not be so worried about the size. I was told by the admissions representatives that a large university can be made small. Of course, I always tkae what they say with a grain of salt because they all think their university is the best in the world:) . Is there anyone familiar with the biolgoy and/or pre-med departments at any of these universities? What are they like (teachers, classes, etc.)?</p>

<p>Even if it is number 10, not number 5, overall it still has a great reputation! That is wonderful! </p>

<p>I have decided not to apply to UIC because it was not a good fit for me. I really did not like the campus, atmosphere, or people as much when I visited. I definately prefered UIUC. Maybe this isn’t the best reasoning. But, it wasn’t the best “fit” for me.</p>

<p>I know it’s been a long time, but what did you decide?</p>

<p>UIUC is the worst for pre-med. Clases are huge and the competition is fierce AND they curve based off the competition. In my physics class I had an 83% which was a B…the school actually curved that down to a c+ yet they kept the A’s (not even a-) at a 90. Tell me how that makes ANY sense.</p>