<p>I was wondering what you guys thought about UMich and UIUC. Why is UIUC better (or UMich), in your opinion?</p>
<p>I think you should go which is instate. I'm going to UIUC because it's in state and still a top 20 program. Michigan will make you more money out of school but I have heard the grading is strict which makes it harder to have a high GPA which is good for getting a job.</p>
<p>Also U of I has the top accounting program in the US. It also depends where you wanna work.</p>
<p>so to sum it up, yes Michigan is better at a price, but for me U of I is a top program and has one of the best recruiting programs</p>
<p>IMO It depends more if you are an instate. If you live in Illinois, I dont see any reason to pay the riduculus oos tuition for Umich. Its just not worth it. Even though Umich is a really good school, i dont think it's worth the price difference. Plus I still kinda agree with GoIllini.</p>
<p>So any other pros for UIUC that you guys can come up with? (I'm compiling a list)</p>
<p>Go to whichever one you like more at a visit. Not everything is about stats and you will be much happier in the end.</p>
<p>PS the stats are similar enough to where they don't matter that much anyway. Go to the one you like.</p>
<p>well, I think the decision should also be based on your major. If you're going to Business, Illinois is about as good. If you're going to engineering, Illinois is AMAZING. The prestige of Illinois among international engineers is equivalent to MIT and Cal Tech (not exaggerating here). I know first hand because my father works for a London company in Singapore and Illinois grants you instant recognition. </p>
<p>If you're talking about something other than Business or Engineer, then I'm not knowledgable enough to say though I must say that UM has a ridiculous OOS price (and Detroit is dying fast).</p>
<p>^^^Ahsie, I think you summed it up well. If you're in-state and going into business or engineering, there is no reason to go to UMich.</p>
<p>Ahsie, what kind of engineering does your fathers company do? Son is going into engineering at Illinois and trying to decide what kind.</p>
<p>He works as a Chem engineer for over 30 years. I went to the company for the summer of 07 and I was exposed to the engineering field myself. He worked here Invensys</a> - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. In the past he worked for Aspen Tech, JGC, and also one of Japan's biggest engineering corporations. </p>
<p>At international corporations (Aspen Tech and JGC was before I was born or when I was too small), the powerhouses of engineering are Cal Tech, MIT, and Illinois. Any of those colleges gain you instant recognition of your abilities much like how Harvard, John Hopkins, or University of Washington gains you instant recognition in the medical field. Yes, I know there are other powerhouses for engineering within the US like Georgia Tech, Purdue, or UT Austin (its petroleum engineering program however is elite with the 3 above) but those program's prestige don't extend that far outside the US (though still respectable). </p>
<p>For the individual programs, I'm not sure which one is the best. I did ask my dad over this summer which one had the highest pay and he said it was easily Petroleum engineers, but at the same time, he said the future outlook of the job is also the grimmest of all the engineers specialties.</p>
<p>what's your major going to be? that would be helpful</p>
<p>Ahsie: </p>
<p>Please don't post things you don't know **** about. That shows you know nothing. Petroleum Engineering has never looked better than it looks today. You think there will ever be an alternative energy that will fully replace oil; I wish you luck. The population will rise by one billion every 15 year; the demand for oil will not always meet the supply. $$$$$</p>
<p>Tell your dad to stick to his own discipline, and don't spread it into hours,</p>
<p>Future PE student, and I have never been so optimistic!</p>
<p>Also, if you major in soely in "petroleum engineering," it DOESEN'T MATTER where you go. It only matters how many and the quality of your internships.</p>
<p>For chem/mech engineering; I hope your school is located next to the Gulf of Mexico. Around LA, CA, OK, and TX is where most of the recruiting talkes place. Coming fro UIUC, I would say you have a good chance to work in the downstream industry, and maybe can work in the upstream.</p>
<p>Good Luck</p>
<p>GoIllini: if you were asking me, my major is mechanical engineering</p>
<p>Look, I'm basically just transferring what my father told me and he has enough experience to know more than a HS Senior or college student does(yes, I'm calling you out). In matter of fact, he even worked with petroleum engineers back at JGC and Aspen Tech which were BOTH located in Houston, Texas (where I grew up and you think at least don't have a general idea??!!). At one point, he almost moved to Cal to work at Exxon. </p>
<p>Furthermore, I never said that alternative energy will replace oil. You said that out of pure blindness. I very well recognize that oil will AT LEAST be our main source of energy for at least the next 50 years. I only said that oil will not likely expand very much (even though my tone might have been a little over) and it is indeed the one that will least likely to expand the future. </p>
<p>And of course, PE will still probably have the highest pay(150K+), but the future for it is also the most unknown (for various conflict possibilities) and least expandable. Furthermore, my friends who were back in Houston didn't express anywhere the same optimism you have. Most of them admit that they go into PE solely because of its pay rather than anything else. </p>
<p>Internship will not get you to the top of the engineering world because at a certain level, all engineers possess the same knowledge(difference between 6 digit and 5 digits), what distinguishes them from others is their unique consultant and skills(these skills are quite valuable and will not be handed out). These unique skills may not be directly taught by the elite colleges, but they will give you the tools to be able to create the unique skills that distinguish you from others. And if you really think these mentors from the internships really teach you everything, you're a blind fool. If a mentor really teaches everything that is "unique" about his way, do you honestly think clients in the future will choose him again? The mentors are just there to guide you, but not teach you everything that makes you the best(directly from my father). The tools to be the best are taught through the system of elite colleges(again, directly from my father).</p>
<p>I should be apologizing. I just assumed you were another person on here who didn't know anything, talking about the downfall of oil. I looked at half your pose, assumed, and then fired. I get very offensive over this, because I have put all my eggs in one basket and I'm taking the leap into it. I think it's safe, so do all the professors at every PE department. If something does happen, unlikely; I will just get my masters in IE, so no biggie. Well and I would be devestated.</p>
<p>And PE is not just great about the money; it's great because no other job will let you travel around the world, settling for a cozy desk job in Houston when you get older. No job will provide the experience PE brings. If you want to exit and go into business; MBAs will always look for PEs.</p>
<p>And yes PE will be grim...</p>
<p>... in 50+ years</p>
<p>P.S. what are these elite schools you speak of? UT, A&M?</p>
<p>depends what engineering program you want to do, and if you are in/out of state</p>
<p>rankings</p>
<p>Rankings</a> | Engineering at Illinois | University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign</p>
<p>bihari87</p>
<p>hey bihari..r u frm india??</p>
<p>Even i have applied to both for chemical engineering. I am international so cant visit the university and select. So which one do you think is better ? I even want to do internship and have good social life and plus want to go to grad school. So which of the 2 do you think is better ?</p>
<p>Ashie : Do you mean that jobs for chemical engineers are decreasing and chemical engineers have a bleak and weak future ?
I checked many sites and they say that chemical engineers are having a very high emplyement rate and porbably the top 5 pays in the world.
Chemical</a> Engineering World: Chemical Engineer Salary Is The Highest</p>
<p>what about Computer Science in UIUC?</p>