UK Universities

Applying to College
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<p>So....hi everyone :)
As you can see from my title ^^ I am interested in some uni's in the UK, mainly:
-St. Andrews
-University of Edinburgh
-University College London
-Glasgow
-Newcastle
-Warwick
-Sheffield
-Birmingham
-York
-Bath
and others.... also open to suggestions haha</p>

<p>I Am wondering how the medical programs are at these schools, and others per your suggestions. However, I do have a problem....my grades were not so hot freshman and part of sophomore year :(</p>

<p>Around a 2.something freshman year and first semester of sophomore year was around a 3.0</p>

<p>Fortunately I have turned myself around with a 4.0 UW for the rest of high school, 2300 on the SAT's, good subject tests: Bio 800, Chem 780, Physics 780, and others all over 700. I also have 4's and 5's on all my AP exams and I have taken 11 AP's in total.</p>

<p>So, I would like to know my chances for any of these medical programs, and look foreword to your suggestions if these selections are not possible with my academic resume. </p>

<p>Thanks so much :)</p>

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<p>To be frank your chances are very low. For a start: medicine is the hardest subject in the UK for foreign students to get into, because the government sets a quota for UK students, which is fair enough. Equally the few foreign students that get in are the best. From the sounds of it your grades would not be enough. Additionally a medicine degree is about seven years, and very ex*****ive: about £28600 (over $500000 I think) a year added to which is accommodation, living costs etc. And there is very little financial aid in the UK. Basically for medicine I would not advise anyone to apply to the UK the chances are tiny and it is probably not worth the bother.</p>

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<p>The UK universities don’t take into account your GPA. They only look at your standardized tests. From the looks of it, those are amazing scores. I’d still agree with Azarimanka and say that don’t go through the hassle. They have quotas on the course for domestic and international students. I’m pretty sure the quota for internationals is at 10%. So if there are 200 on the course, only 20 can be internationals. Those who will be gunning for those 20 spots are going to be qualified as hell.</p>

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<p>So…should I just change my major? I am also considering law, so would that be easier given my stats or about the same as med? Any other suggestion? Thanks :)</p>

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<p>You do know that in the UK you apply to a course and that’s all you study? So if it’s law, then law is what you will be doing for 3 years. St Andrews doesn’t offer Law btw</p>

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<p>Yep, I know, I would prefer med, but since everyone thinks that is unrealistic, i was thinking about law. Med is my first choice however.</p>

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<p>Law is a better bet but still really tough. Also bear in mind that a British law degree would probably not allow you to practise in the US and you might have to re-qualify. You have to be sure that you really want to study in the UK and why you want to.</p>

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<p>I’m going for an LLB in the UK. Law in the UK is a solid option imo, but it has to “fit” with you. There is quite a difference in medicine and law. Do you have at least 3 5’s amongst those AP exams? And if so, are they in history, english, or a language? You want to make sure you have some relevant subjects. Nothing is wrong with science subjects, but they want to make sure you can write. My subject combination was economics, english, politics, and physics. </p>

<p>If you want to practice law in London, then the LLB is an excellent option. If you want to come to the US, it can still be made into a good option. NY allows one to practice law with an LLM from any ABA accredited law school…or an LLB from a UoL school. If you qualify as a solicitor or barrister in England & Wales, you can sit the bar in NY without any additional courses. CA allows you to practice law with an LLM. Northwestern offers a 2 year JD for those with an LLB, so you could have an LLB/JD in 5 years—this would allow you to practice in any state. Another option is to start off in the London office of an international firm, and move to the NYC office. You can practice this way with just an LLB. </p>

<p>Aside from career differences between UK and US law schools, they are academically different. US law schools teach strictly black letter law. UK law schools, in addition to black letter law, go more into the theory of law…i.e what should the law be? what’s best for society?</p>

<p>As far as which unis to pick…firms in London tend to have the following preference.</p>

<p>(no particular order within the groups, each gap is a separate tier…I didn’t include a full list on the third group, just picked from the unis on your list)</p>

<p>Oxford/Cambridge</p>

<p>UCL
LSE
Durham
Warwick
Bristol
KCL
Nottingham</p>

<p>Birmingham<br>
Newcastle </p>

<p>Try and skip the scottish unis, as they do scots law. You would have to take an additional course to qualify as a solicitor in England, and the LLB is 4 yrs instead of 3. St. Andrews doesn’t have a law department. Edinburgh is the best for law in Scotland. If you are interested in EU law, Edinburgh would be a good pick in that case. As the EU picks up more strength, it will continue to mirror scots law because it combines civil and common law (reflects the member states).</p>

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<p>Some of the schools on the list are Scottish. A Scottish degree is 4 years, not 3. You can also take up to 3 different subjects for your first 2 years and need not decide at the outset.</p>

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Correct. For law its a little different. For the LLB to be a qualifying degree, there are certain compulsory subjects. So rather than take the strait LLB, most will combine it with one other subject. They then spend a little less than 3/4 of the time on Law and a bit more than 1/4 of the time on the other subject. Edinburgh offers the joint honours LLB in everything from economics and politics to celtic and accounting. </p>

<p>Some of the english schools offer law with another subject. Usually the other subject is a language or social science. Bristol offers the LLB with french and german. LSE has an anthropology and law degree, but it is not a qualifying degree. QMUL has a law and politics degree, but you have to plan ahead if you want it to be a qualifying degree.</p>

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<p>^ I may kill you.</p>