<p>I'm an Illinois resident, so i've been to U of I, Urbana-Champaigne (UIUC), but couldn't visit U of </p>
<p>Mich yet. Can anyone compare the campus atmosphere of UMich to UIUC's??</p>
<p>the size, student diversity, atmosphere, the area (which i believe Michigan's is much better)
and so on.</p>
<p>thx</p>
<p>University of Michigan- Ann Arbor to me is a far better choice than University of Illinois. Although since your a Illinois resident, it's not a bad school. Also ranked in top 100.</p>
<p>if cost isnt an issue go for it.. your into a good school as is so there isn't anything you have to lose. knock yourself out and go ahead.</p>
<p>If money is no issue, I can't knock Michigan. If you could use the extra $80,000 or so, there is nothing wrong with U of I.</p>
<p>Main atmosphere-based difference: Illinois is a lot more rural and Michigan is like a cosmopolitan small town.</p>
<p>U of I can beat Toledo.</p>
<p>sorry... couldn't resist</p>
<p>when i was applying i was stuck between the 2 same schools. if youre in engineering then academically theyre pretty much equal. otherwise id say UM is a little better, although UI is still a great school. if you wanna save some money def. go with UI. personally i loved UM's campus alot more than UI's. alot more to do.</p>
<p>U of M is not far superior to Illinois whoever said that earlier, both are ranked in the top 40 however I would agree that U of M overall is a better school, it depends on what you major in and your financial aid situation, U of M probably is better at most majors except for accounting and engineering, Illinois's engineering program is amazing(so is Michigan's but Illinois's is better) and Michigan Ross is overall a much better business school but Illinois's accounting program is second to none in the nation, so it depends on you and your financial situation. Like everyone else has said going to Michigan Out of State will cost you a fortune.</p>
<p>I don't think UIUC engineering is better. Maybe it's ranked higher by usnews, but I still think most people when given a choice, would pick Michigan engineering over UIUC engineering. Also, UIUC engineering students are considerably better than the rest of the student body at UIUC, where this isn't the case at Michigan.</p>
<p>Not always true my opinion is that the students in UMich engineering, along with the Umich pre-med and business(ross admit) students are far superior to the kids that mooch in through art school, general studies at LS&A and kinesiology and the students that are in history and sociology majors</p>
<p>the students in Umich engineering, pre-med, and ross business many of them arguably are ivy-league caliber students and are the upper eschelon of education at the UMich campus</p>
<p>Ramennoodles, keefer is quite right. There is no weak link at Michigan. LSA students are, on average, as good as Engineering students. Of course, you have pockets within the student body. For example, Honors students (roughly 15% of LSA) average like 1470 or 1480 on the SAT, 33 on the ACT and graduate, from high school with close to 4.0 GPAs. Ross students have similar (slightly lower) scores. However, UIUC is an excellent university. If the OP can get IS tuition and Michigan does not give her/him financial aid or a scholraship, it would be hard to justify spending close to $100k over 4 years to attend Michigan, or any other university, including the Ivies. If money is not an issue, Michigan is a better overall package than UIUC, but if finances are a concern, I cannot justify Michigan.</p>
<p>ramen, i would say all of our science/math/engineering majors are ivy level students (frankly, I wasn't that impressed with the bschool kids), it's a tough school for these majors. Those who can't cut it seek safety in the department of psychology...(only kidding... sort of...) i digress, this isn't a michigan lick-off festival, I agree with alex's suggestions, paying back loans is very annoying(and i had very little), it's all after-tax money...that you could use to buy a condo or something, I was just saying that earlier under the assumption that the effective cost of attendance would be similar.</p>
<p>I definitely disagree that all of our science/math/engineering students are ivy level, but there are a ton of incredibly bright people in these areas. Not that I'm biased, but I would have to say that for the most part, engineering students are brighter. I don't think you'll find many engineering students complaining about Calc I stuff in Econ 401.</p>
<p>Students from LSA, Engineering, Ross, Kineseology, Education, and other schools have their own strengths and weaknesses. I particularly disagree that students from one school are stronger than the other, I've seen some cases where Engineering students struggled in courses offered in LSA such as Econ 401, Literature, and Writing classes and had to drop those classes in the end while some who chose to continue ended up with C-</p>
<p>I agree with Proudwolverine. It is impossible to measure ability and intelligence. In some schools, like Brown, Chicago, Dartmouth or Duke, where virtually 100% of students major in Arts and Sciences, it may be easier to compare and contrast. But the skills required to compare Music, Art, Kines, LSA, Engineering and Nursing students vary a great deal from school to school.</p>
<p>You guys are probably right, I'm just basing it off admissions from students that attended my high school last year, the majority of those accepted into the engineering had at least a 31 ACT and a 3.9 GPA in super hard schedules including 4 or more APs while the LSA students had like 26 and 27 ACT's and 3.9's in very easy schedules with 1 or 2 APs</p>
<p>Ramennoodles, your obesrvations are quite correct. Engineering students are, on average, probably more "qualified" than LSA students. It makes sense afterall. Engineering has no easy majors (LSA has several not-very-demanding majors), requires a great deal of demonstrated comfort with Math and Physics and is roughly 1/3 the size of LSA. As such, you would expect Engineering to have a more uniformly academic student body. However, LSA accepts 40% (probably less this year) of applicants compared to 70% of applicants admitted into Engineering.</p>