UMich is ranked #11 by Newsweek

<p>Part of the top 100 global universities.</p>

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<li>Harvard University </li>
<li>Stanford University </li>
<li>Yale University </li>
<li>California Institute of Technology </li>
<li>University of California at Berkeley </li>
<li>University of Cambridge </li>
<li>Massachusetts Institute Technology </li>
<li>Oxford University </li>
<li>University of California at San Francisco </li>
<li>Columbia University </li>
<li>University of Michigan at Ann Arbor </li>
<li>University of California at Los Angeles </li>
<li>University of Pennsylvania </li>
<li>Duke University </li>
<li>Princeton Universitty </li>
<li>Tokyo University </li>
<li>Imperial College London </li>
<li>University of Toronto </li>
<li>Cornell University </li>
<li>University of Chicago</li>
</ol>

<p>W00t!!!!!!!</p>

<p>Go Stanford!!!!!
Go Stanford!!!!!</p>

<p>Oh Yeah!!!!!!!</p>

<p>Wow, how can Umich be ranked 24 nationally, yet 11 internationally?</p>

<p>Because one is based off the wack US News (which has NO publics in the top 20) and the other is by Newsweek. It looks like Newsweek may be based off graduate school stuff (hence, UC San Francisco) in which case U-M is near the top in virtually all fields.</p>

<p>1) Rankings are only good as the metric used to create them.</p>

<p>2) The metric used for college rankings is largely arbitrary.</p>

<p>b/c newsweek is judging global and USnews is judging BEST</p>

<p>yeah.. i haven't even heard of University of California at San Francisco.</p>

<p>Cambridge over Oxford :)</p>

<p>Newsweek is ranking universities according to how global they are and according to reputation. Michigan is #11 in the World, and #8 among US universities that grant undergraduate degrees.</p>

<p>UCSF has an excellent medical school / med research school. It's only really talked about past undergrad...but all the overseas Asian people I know find it very impressive (then again, it is a UC...).</p>

<p>The list makes me happy but is kind of questionable since some of the Ivies aren't even on the list. Newsweek prefers public schools I guess?</p>

<p>newsweek is favored toward research/graduate oriented schools. the best research oriented public school are just as competitive, if not more competitive than the private schools when it comes to their graduate programs.</p>

<p>where as usnews is favored towards "undergraduate experience."</p>

<p>the pitfall of usnews is that, as another cc poster put it, most "in the know" people who do the PA score (25% of usnews methodology) arn't anymore in the know than the average person who is a frequent poster on CC. No big research school is really known for their undergraduate sector - they are more known for whatever research they have put out. </p>

<p>So while harvard may have a 4.9, and michigan may have a 4.5, no one really knows what the actual quality of the 2 vs. each other is - at least on the undergraduate level. Harvard relies on its harvard name, heritage, and vast research output, just as much as Michigan relies on the same. but for every no.1 ranking harvard gets, or 4.9/5 it gets on how good it is, you hear stories about how the professors there arn't too concerned about their undergraduates and are more concerned with their research. So as you can see, the USnews rankings are to be taken with a mightly large grain of salt.</p>

<p>Understand, these rankings aren't measuring the same thing USNEWS is measuring (though I'm sure Newsweek released them to put up a little competition).</p>

<p>This measures how "global" universites (not necessarily just graduate or undergrad, but the entire school) are. In my opinoin, its a pretty stupid ranking because what exactly makes a university global? Obviously the bigger and more research-oriented a university is will be the biggest thing affecting these rankings. </p>

<p>That said, Umich is a very respected and recognized university internationally. It is no surprise to see it that high in this kind of ranking. Undergraduate academics doesn't neccessarily correlate to the Newsweek ranking. (whatever it is ranking)</p>

<p>I dunno but I've heard some negative things about UCSF...
The ranking of Umich doesnt make sense o.O</p>

<p>Remember that is a ranking of universities according to their global reputation and impact. It does not attempt to rank the quality of undergraduate education. </p>

<p>Also keep in mind that UCSF is purely a medical school and a graduate school for the life sciences. It does not offer any other field of study and it does not grand undergraduate degrees. </p>

<p>And why doesn't Michigan's ranking make sense?</p>

<p>Michigan #11 ranking doesn't make sense because the Michigan of the East is ranked #1 and the Michigan of the West is ranked #2.</p>