<p>Hey guys. Well, on Monday I was accepted into Michigan off of the wait-list. I really wasn't expecting it and accordingly I was pretty set and intent on attending IU. However, UM was one of my top choice schools and was a school that I really wanted to attend. IU was more of a safety, but I was directly admitted into the Kelly B-school along with a $7K/year scholarship. I was also accepted into the Honors college at IU. UM will definitely be a more competitive school as well as more expensive (tuition is not a great problem because my family is fairly well-off). At UM, I'm not guaranteed to get into the business school. I have to reapply during my sophomore year. While I am confident that I will be accepted, nothing is certain. IU offers me a great value and I will be one of the top students. At UM I might not be one of the top students, but rather some where in the middle. I'll definitely work hard wherever I go and I'll always try my best. I'm really torn with this decision. I have no clue which school to choose. Any advice?? How should I handle my predicament?? Thanks guys!</p>
<p>Go to IU if money's an issue</p>
<p>"UM was one of my top choice schools and was a school that I really wanted to attend
tuition is not a great problem
I am confident that I will be accepted"</p>
<p>looks like you already made up your mind...</p>
<p>I think you should choose IU... My take is that being middle of the road at a slightly more prestigious school is not as impressive as being top notch at its counterpart (especially when you are in honors and recieving money)</p>
<p>The opportunities you will get at Indiana will surely outweigh Michigan's academic edge. You may have priority scheduling, have opportunities for tuition waivers, smaller classes, chances to meet influential indviduals etc. meanwhile outshining your classmates and truly looking like a successful graduate. Furthermore, the Kelley school of business is top 10 in the nation... You shouldn't have a problem getting a job.
Unless, you feel more comfortable at Michigan or like its campus a lot better I suggest you don't blend into the crowd---Go to IU</p>
<p>I use my own experience as an example.</p>
<p>I was rejected OOS to UNC-Chapel Hill and attend Miami University. UNC has the academic edge on Miami, although if I was admitted to UNC I would still be among the most intelligent students but not in honors (my stats are well above the averages, but there is a quota on out of state students)... So I was somewhat weary and thought I might transfer. However, I never applied to.<br>
At Miami, the honors program has allowed me so many opportunities whereas I would fade into the crowd at UNC. I have a very high GPA, and have a summer tuition waiver through honors-which will allow me to study abroad for free. I take much smaller classes than the average student, and schedule weeks before seniors- allowing me to essentially craft my classes. I was already admitted into the business school, and already had a class taught by the dean himself. Meanwhile, I have a scholarship and am paying much less, in my opinion, for much more. Miami now has one of the fastest rising business schools (#17 vs. UNC #11). (In your case IU #10 v. UM #6)... I wouldn't trade my opportunities and money for 6 spots. Maybe I'll go to Carolina for grad school.</p>
<p>Just my 2 cents</p>
<p>I thought you laughed at the idea of going to UM???</p>
<p>IU is going to be about 20K per year for 4 years (80K total) in Tuition and R+B with your scholarship. The sticker price for UM in Tuition and R+B is about 35K per year (140K total). </p>
<p>IU would be nearly twice as cheap as UM (for Business, you need money for grad school). But this is without seeing UM's aid. It comes down to whether or not cost is a concern. No sense in making a decision before you see your aid decision.</p>
<p>If Ross admissions don't work out, you could always transfer to IU (pretty much guaranteed transfer with above a 3.0). Something to remember in your decision.</p>
<p>I don't know whether or not it's worth spending twice the money in a slight improvement in quality for your UG degree. IU is still a top 10 B-School, UM is top 5. </p>
<p>Also remember fit. IU is a big party school, UM is more nerdy. Ann Arbor is a bigger town, Bloomington is in the middle of nowhere. IU is nearly all white students, UM has lots of diversity.</p>
<p>You will have an easier time getting a high GPA at IU than UM where you are competing against kids with 3.8's and 1350's. You also graduate with "Honors" on your degree. I would think that a Kelley Honors degree would hold as much weight as a Ross degree. </p>
<p>Tough call, but finances are the most important. Talk to your parents about this.</p>
<p>Congratulations--it's awesome that you finally got accepted. :)</p>
<p>However, it's my opinion that leaving undergraduate school with little to no debt will allow you to attend a prestigious grad school with less economic strain. Also, at IU you will most likely graduate at the top of your class with honors and therefore can get into a great grad school program. </p>
<p>In the grand scheme of things, your undergrad degree means little--it's what you do at grad school that's really important, and having endless choices for grad school is probably worth going to a slightly less prestigious undergrad school.</p>
<p>(hopefully this made sense?)</p>
<p>You're kidding right? Michigan has an advantage in assets and endowment but by no means is Indiana "inferior" to Michigan. If you have been accepted by the Indiana Honors College, then by all means take them up on the offer. Like Michigan, Indiana has a national reputation for fine academics.</p>
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<p>Umm, there's a much larger gap between the schools than you appear to think.</p>
<p>The statistics tell a different story kazz.</p>
<p>Michigan Is A Much Better School....idk What Ur Thinking</p>
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<p>what statistics?</p>
<p>Take the bird in the hand. For business IU is fine and can get you the same places as UM for the most part.</p>
<p>nothing wrong with IU but if you can afford UM and like it better than IU should deffinitely go to michigan...</p>
<p>Job placement, teaching quality, facilities, student body, starting salaries, peer assessment, employer assessment. Indiana is not far off from Michigan. One is a top 5 Business school, the other is a top 10. It's not a noticable drop off. You wouldn't be missing out on too much passing up on the Ross degree for a Kelley degree.</p>
<p>Are we talking specifically about the two business schools? I misunderstood; I was referring to the two colleges as a whole.</p>
<p>If so, then fair enough. I'm not sure about the student body claim... most Ross students are in the upper echelon of U-M students... which have 1400+ SAT scores and such. I doubt the same could be said for Kelley.</p>
<p>as far as the rest is concerned, I have no numbers with which to make judgement. However, currently half of Ross (the old half) is being demolished and completely new facilities are being built. (This is a result of the Ross $100 million donation)</p>
<p>and speaking in terms of undergrad, few of the top b-schools (Wharton, Kellogg, Harvard, Stanford) even offer undergraduate degrees. Michigan is also a top MBA program, while Kelley, while still very good, lags behind a bit. If the top schools also offerred BBA programs, I venture to say Kelley would be futher behind Michigan.</p>
<p>You will have much better opportunities in Kelley Honors than as a typical middle-of-the-road, perhaps low-end, if you were waitlisted student at Michigan.
Pay more money for 5 ranking spots v. Pay Less, get honors program, rank at the top of your class, more opportunities</p>
<p>seems like a no-brainer to me</p>
<p>Most people on this forum are so concerned with school prestige they let it overlap everything else</p>
<p>wat ru saying, Indiana as a whole i am sorry is known as a joke school for many kids, kids with below 1000 sat scores can get in there, whereas for michigan out of state, u pretty much need at BARE MINUMUM a 1250-1300.</p>
<p>I live in Indiana and although IU's acceptance rate is higher than those of the Big Ten, it's a really good school and the Kelley School of Businesses is one of the best engineering schools in the Midwest. IU accepts a lot of kids with low SAT scores but a great number of kids in Indiana who were valedictorians at the high schools in Indianapolis chose to go to IU instead of going to higher ranking colleges. </p>
<p>You can't judge a school just because of the statistics of the students who attend there. That does not reflect the acedemics of the college itself. IU is a great school and its engineering and music programs are wonderful.</p>
<p>I hate the SAT score argument. It's ridiculous. Test scores don't measure how a student body does in the workforce. Recruiters can attest to that. Indiana's graduates were ranked ahead of Michigan's according to Business Week's recruiter survey, in which recruiters were surveyed and asked which graduates worked the best in the workplace. This is why schools like BYU and Notre Dame rank so high in business week's rankings, employers like their graduates, their business school grooms them well.</p>
<p>You don't go to an undergraduate school with the sole purpose of staying there for grad school. The strength of the graduate school has no impact on this decision. However, finances are. Saving $80,000 and still attending one of the finest undergraduate business schools in the country is a great deal.</p>
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<p>IU doesn't have an engineering school.</p>