<p>kazz-Wharton has undergrad, DUH. A top Iu business grad will do as well as the average Ross grad. Ross is so small its stats are scewed.</p>
<p>My bad barrons... forgot Wharton had one.</p>
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<p>That's arguably the instate minimum. Out of state is ~1350-1400</p>
<p>that's why the middle 50% range is 1220-1420 (that means 50% scored 30 points or more below the BARE minimum for IN state students???</p>
<p>ACT 26-31</p>
<p>Thanks for the input guys. Plenty of good arguments from both sides. I just want to make the right choice so I don't find myself thinking, "Boy, I wish I had gone there instead." As long as I can avoid that, I'll be pleased with my decision.</p>
<p>Whoops I'm sorry. No IU does not have an engineering school. I meant business school. My fingers went crazy.</p>
<p>haha-mistake in my post too (it would be about 25% below the instate avg)</p>
<p>dvlfnfv5... I'd take into consideration what was said above BUT ULTIMATELY
go where you feel most comfortable going---that's the most important thing.</p>
<p>University of Michigan, they have really good prof...</p>
<p>I think there's really something to be said for only being in the "middle" of the pack at a university. I personally chose Michigan over UIUC because i wanted to be in that middle of the pack rather than at the top like I was in high school, because being at the top meant that I wasn't being challenged because I could always bank on the fact that I was going to score higher than my classmates. At Michigan, I consider myself on an equal plane with my classmates, and that drives me to be a much better student because I can't take anything for granted now. IU has a fine business school, but Ross is top 3 and offers a much stronger student body (I think the fact that you (and probably quite a few other students like you) got into IU honors and direct admit to Kelley while UM was reluctant to even accept you, let alone give you a spot at Ross testifies to the difference in student body strength), so if you want to really challenge yourself and stretch your limits academically, I recommend you choose Michigan.</p>
<p>I'm sorry to say but Indiana does not have the academic reputation of Michigan by any means. Half of my friends called Indiana a joke when I told them I applied there. Indiana all of a sudden has become a hot school with everyone wanting to come. Yes Indiana has always been treated lower than it should be and all of these top kids who got in were simply using Indiana as a safety. My question is how will Indiana be able to support the huge surge in top students since they seem to be giving out a decent sum or money to each student? I believe A2Wolves had an article some time ago about some program getting cut because of financial matters. It'll be interesting to see if Indiana can continue to attract the same student body it recieved this year. And do also consider it's still only Indiana. It's the nation's 4th worst economy. </p>
<p>Now I don't hate Indiana, it's just that the intellectual atmosphere is stronger at Michigan. The alumni are very powerful in terms of what they've accomplished in the business world at Michigan. Now what I do like about Indiana is that it has a nice campus and the town of bloomington is a great place. Sitting in on a few lectures I can clearly say the professors were really great.</p>
<p>In the end I say go with Michigan. Indiana has just started to get the reputation it has been looking for and because of it, it's going to take time to develop with that prestige.</p>
<p>Kinglin, it's hard to understand your argument when you contradict yourself. Do you or do you NOT have high regard for Indiana University's academic programs?</p>
<p>And by the way, Indiana has been highly thought of by peers for decades, not only recently. And was it you who said 'stay away from the state because of a laggard economy?' Not a good rationale. Using that logic, applicants should avoid places like New Haven (Yale) and any college in the small towns or rural areas of northeast U.S.</p>
<p>Indiana and Michigan are tied in the number of CEO's produced at major companies so despite UM's great reputation it apparently does not have substantially more powerful alumni in the business world.</p>
<p>Kinglin, staying away from IU because of the state of Indiana's economy is ridiculous.</p>
<p>"My question is how will Indiana be able to support the huge surge in top students since they seem to be giving out a decent sum or money to each student?"
---- You have absolutely NO basis to even make such an assumption that the school is unable to responsibly offer Financial Aid. Or to say that they are giving a lot of aid out in general. But if they are giving a lot of Aid out-- they are doing it for a reason, or CAN do it. </p>
<p>Indiana is becoming a HOT school for a reason. It isn't like smart people just started applying there and it got better. It has a beautiful campus, and the Kelley school has an amazing reputation.</p>
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<p>Yea, and Michigan's economy is worse. And has the highest unemployment rate (7.3%).</p>
<p>I like Indiana and I hope my kid applies there, but the average income of Kelley graduates is around $43,000 a year. That's a fine number, but many schools have numbers like that.</p>
<p>Since it is a business school, average salaries is an important factor when deciding on whether to go to the school or not. </p>
<p>The CEO yardstick is too small a measure. People should decide on a school based on 20 people?</p>
<p>No, but unsubstantiated claims need to be challenged. IU graduates about 5 times as many each year as UM in business. The top 300 from IU probably make about the same as the 300 from UM each year and are comparable on other factors such as SAT etc.</p>
<p>barrons is typing stuff in that I want to type in, but i'm still in school, lol</p>
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<p>You're not out yet? Our last day was on the 23rd.</p>
<p>No, I don't get out until next Friday, June 2nd (Cap and Gown Pickup). It really stinks (stinks is a kind word that won't get filtered out).</p>
<p>To be frank Michigan has a much greater reputation. This isn't law or medical school, for business what matters most is where you went not your GPA. Go to Michigan - its considered a top school - IU is not. go to vault.com and look up where the elite banks and consulting firms recruit. Many recruit at michigan, only a couple recruit at Indana.</p>
<p>IU is quite highly regarded by many businesses. KSB is not a joke. I'm also not quite sure that where I went will matter more than my GPA (at least when considering UMich and IU).</p>
<p>One thing that turns me off about IU is the quality of the students. There were 3 other kids from my HS accepted into KSB and they're definitely not the brightest kids. I doubt any of them are in the top 50% of our school. I was surprised when I learned they were going to Kelley.</p>