UMich Winter 2017 Classes

Hey guys,

I’m sure I’m not the only one here deciding which classes I should take for next semester. I am hoping to get some insight on the following combinations, how doable they are, which profs recommended, and basically if I am crazy with the following choices. EECS and Orgo 1 are definite, just the other classes in my schedule that I’m debating. Also feel free to share your thoughts on your schedule! :slight_smile:

Option 1
EECS 183, CHEM 210/211, BIOLOGY 173, ECON 102
15 credits

Option 2
EECS 183, CHEM 210/211, PHYSICS 140/141, ECON 102 *
18 credits
*How easy is 102 compared to 101? I am taking 101 with Caldwell rn and planning on selecting Cho for 102.

Option 3
EECS 183, CHEM 210/211, PHYSICS 140/141
14 credits

So yeah, my main problem is Options 2 and 3, whether that combination will be too horrible. My extracurriculars are relatively non-time consuming, at most 5-10 hours a week of non-academics.

Please be honest with your answers and hopefully I can make my final decision when I register.

THANK YOU!!!

Organic chemistry is extremely time consuming and option #2 is probably going to overwhelm you.

@TooOld4School lol yeah #2 is crazy.

What about 140, EECS 183, and Orgo? From what you’ve heard/experienced, is it doable.
Thanks!

Yes, I think you will be fine. 13 credits?

Options 2 and 3 will both be tough, but not impossible. What is your intended major? BME? ChemE?

@umcoe16 BME is an option but I’m transferring to coe.

If you are currently a freshman, then I would say you definitely want to get Physics 140/141 done. Orgo can wait.

@umcoe16 Yeah I’m taking that for Winter because pre-reqs for transfer. Just curious, what’s your intended major? I take it that you’re in engineering.

I’ve graduated from EECS.

@umcoe16 oh! That’s great! Congrats! :slight_smile:
What made you settle on EECS? I’m still trying to decide on which major. BME’s only if I’m 100% certain I get into med school (yup another one of those freshman doing pre med xD).

I just thought the EECS material was interesting. If think you may be interested in EE, then of course you want to take Physics 140/141 this winter so that in the fall, you can take Physics 240/241 and EECS 215. That usually gives you a fair idea of whether EE may be for you or not.

BME undergrad is mostly premeds. The actual BME classes have significant grade inflation, and most students I have seen do not end up learning much. It seems that the undergrad BME curriculum is very focused on breadth rather than depth, since you cover some of a lot of different disciplines with biomedical applications. If you end up being serious about engineering employment, you would be better off choosing a more traditional discipline (such as ME, EE, ChemE).

Ah yes I’ve heard from several BME students that they’re learning many things but not in-depth enough. But, I’m not sure if you know about this, but I know there are concentrations in BME; would those make up for the lack of depth and make undergrads more qualified for employment directly out of college?

Additionally, do you know any EECS majors that did pre med? I’m looking at the sample schedule and it doesn’t seem like EECS majors’ schedules are very flexible.

If you do BME undergrad, you pretty much have to go to grad school to even be considered by employers.

ChemE and maybe MSE are the only other engineering majors which have some overlap with premed (orgo, and some bio). If you came in with enough credits, it may be possible to do all that in four years. However, it is also very likely that you will have to take a fifth year by doing premed with other engineering majors.

@umcoe16

I disagree that grad school is required to be seriously considered by employers. My BME friends say that this is a myth. They have pretty good internship placements to back their word up too.