<p>I intended to join the HKU architecture program but I received UMich offer and it really set me in the dilemma. Do anyone of you have any idea about them? HKU definitely costs less but the US education may expose me to more diverse academic environment. Hard to choose isnt it? Open to any possible information!</p>
<p>Thx
SC</p>
<p>Any aid in either school or do you have to pay the full fee?</p>
<p>*phyz - thx for the quick reponse! UMich doesnt provide FA for intl students, and the HKU’s aid hvnt come out yet(HKU’s total fee is around one third of the UMich’s)
wot do u think?</p>
<p>UMich >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HKU</p>
<p>@Naff why do think so lowly of Asian universities? I am actually really interested because I am choosing between US/UK and HK universities.</p>
<p>To the OP, I think it really depends on where you want to work. </p>
<p>I think I might give up WashU (deposited), Imperial, UCL, I gave up CMU and a few other US schools already, to go to HKUST. (mainly for financial reasons and I think my course is really good)
Btw TheGrand might give up UC Berkeley and LSE to go to HKU.
Also my offer for HKUST is 40 points in IB which is higher than what I got for Imperial. </p>
<p>But in my opinion in the end it really depends on what you want out of college. Do you want connections to work in Asia, do you want to save money for grad school, do you want to live in one of the worlds best cities?
You can’t really go wrong with either.</p>
<p>@ysbera LOL, here you are - and I thought you just managed to avoid coming to CC.
Anyway, have a look at our thread, there is one interesting post for you to reply - I did my bit already.</p>
<p>@naff: I do have to agree with ysbera, would you want to elaborate on your point. I know ranking is not everything but HKU has been in the top 30s in the world according to one survey.</p>
<p>@OP: You might want to look again at the school fees AND livings fees for UMich in comparison with HKU. For me, I can get 5 Bachelors degree in HKU for the money I will be paying if I choose to attend Berkeley (I have adjusted for living standards and school fees).</p>
<p>And again, I have to second ysbera’s point - do think about where you want to work in the future, because ultimately the ‘local’ connection is almost the most important. A degree in either of the university you choose would probably give you the same pay if you choose to come back to HK to work (that is I am assuming you are a HKer). Is money an issue for you? Do you want to stay with your family? - These are some questions you may want to consider.</p>
<p>And yes, I am probably giving up my offer from Berkeley and LSE to go to HKU, and also, my offer for HKU is 40 points in IB too which is higher than what I got for LSE.</p>
<p>You can also drop by our other post - HKUST or HKU, we’re always there <em>stares at ysbera</em></p>
<p>Haha @TheGrand…</p>
<p>But to add to what I mean by financial concerns is that US education costs about probably $250,000 for everything and if I go to HKUST, I would hopefully pay no tuition. I would then save a quarter of a million and in the future I am looking forward to working in the business field, start ups and that’s a lot of money I can use. </p>
<p>I also remember Sam Lee once said on the HKU or HKUST thread that he personally does not think a US education from CMU, Michigan or anything is worth that much money and you might be even able to argue that HKU, or HKUST are better if you want to work in the Asia. </p>
<p>Even though my family is able to pay for my education in a US school with no problem but I have asked myself is it worth it? I think no and there are a lot of opportunity costs (the cost of the next best alternative forgone) involved here.</p>
<p>One more thing I have to add is that I have feeling that my education at HKUST would be more “pre-professional” while at WashU would probably be more of an intellectual exploration. Although in this aspect WashU sounds better to me personally but I think I would get a job and be more easily adjusted to it if I go to HKUST.</p>
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Agreed. HKU over UMich…urghh no WAY</p>
<p>^ another ignorant child - blurting out a BIG point without any substantiation.
I agree with ysbera.</p>
<p>Interestingly, UMich is ranked above HKU according to the times ranking (no idea about the architecture course itself) but the point is this. Both these places are ranked well. Its about non-academic factors such as how much you like the idea of studying in the US, the social life at these schools and all that which should make the difference. If you think these factors are worth the extra cash, go for it.</p>
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<p>You have your own point of view, I have my own. Any problems?</p>
<p>No problem at all if you would give at least try to substantiate your points made earlier.</p>
<p>HKU is overrated.</p>
<p>HKU is overrated, the Hong Kong University for Math and Science Technology [DIFFERENT] is way better.</p>
<p>Dude, seriously what are you thinking?</p>
<p>I’ve been living in Hong Kong since birth, and based on people I know/heard from, some HKU graduates can’t even speak English correctly without gramma issues. A biochem graduate friend of mine is now working as a saleslady for medical products, going around clinics doing surveys. On the other hand, my relative who’s graduated from UMichigan business faculty, got his first job offering from a bank and pay packet of 80thousand dollars.</p>
<p>I know they’re from different majors, but really try to see the difference between the two people’s "first occupation"s after graduation. HKU just doesnt cut as well as UMichigan does imo.</p>
<p>UMichigan definately.</p>
<p>@Derek, how many years do you think it takes to earn $200,000?</p>
<p>Well all in all, I mean, once you got the gig from uni(and the oppertunities), the packback you get after graduation should outweight the costs at SOME point right?</p>
<p>I really think I can comfortably say (based on my personal knowledge) an average UMichigan graduate is going to be better equipped, more competitive than a HKU grad. imo staying competitive is the biggie here, how long it takes shouldn’t be that bothering…</p>
<p>alright can’t really argue as I don’t have data or anything but I bet a graduate from HKU’s top programs earns more than the average Michigan graduate and is more competitive for employers in Asia. And your first job doesn’t necessarily depend on which university you graduated from but what you did in university. With all the internship opportunities, case competitions, forums available for HKU and HKUSTs students, they can become very practical and pre-professional and thats definitely a bonus.</p>
<p>derek328,</p>
<p>UMich is not that hard to get in for in-state and more than 2/3 of its student body is from Michigan. Their average SAT is a mere 1300 or so (M+CR) even when the OOS students are included. I am sure average HKU students should have no problem to get that score if there were a Chinese SAT (nah, the Chinese would never give such easy test on math). I am almost certain it’s easier to get into UMich from Michigan HS than getting into HKU from HS in HK. </p>
<p>Only small minority of Mich grads are able to get jobs with the big banks. Give your relative some credits. It’s about him/her, not the school.</p>
<p>Since when you can make generalization based on “two people’s first occupations after graduation”? Two people?? Are you serious???</p>
<p>Oh, I am sure most Mich grads have lots of grammatical issues with foreign languages (just like most Americans).</p>
<p>Hahaha yeh true I guess you two do have a point, sorry if I generalized a lil bit too much, just sharing experiences from friends and family, thats all :P</p>