<p>Well isn’t someone a little *****.</p>
<p>But factual. Nearly everyone around the country knows UW has a better social life and overall experience than Uminn. From Sports Illustrated on down. </p>
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<p>“A consistent winner in overall education polls, the capital of Wisconsin is a supreme college town. Though large in comparison with the likes of Amherst and Princeton, Madison, with over 200,000 people, is a wonderful place to go to school. More often than not, that school is the massive University of Wisconsin-Madison, home to over 40,000 students and Big Ten Conference basketball and football.” Best College Towns in America</p>
<p>Seriosuly, I’m stuck. I love UW and the Madison campus. But the state of Wisconsin really sucks.</p>
<p>UW>UMN</p>
<p>Minnesota the State>>>>>>Wisconsin</p>
<p>I hate the Green Bay Packers and can’t imagine being surrounded by Packer fans. </p>
<p>Vikings>>>>>>>>Packers</p>
<p>Twins>>>>>>Brewers</p>
<p>Wild>>>>>No NHL team</p>
<p>10,000 Lakes>>>>>>Cheese farms</p>
<p>And I have grown up rooting for the Gophers so I can’t imagine being a Badger fan. And I can’t imagine rooting against the Gophs. And I’ll miss the rouser.</p>
<p>But Madison seems like a cooler school and I don’t want to go to school less than twenty minutes from my house.</p>
<p>I am really stuck.</p>
<p>I think Barrons’ posts make it seem like all the Minn students are commuters and there is no campus life, which is totally untrue. There are thousands of students living in dorms and in apartments adjacent to campus. My son has a very active social life in and around campus - is is not so spread out as Barrons would lead you to believe. I think you need to visit both and see what is the better fit for you.</p>
<p>If you aren’t a resident of MN or WI, Minnesota is waaaaaaaaay more generous with merit aid which is why WI has the split between sconies and coasties. Only residents of WI, MN and rich out-of-staters can afford to go there.</p>
<p>That’s because UM has to pay OOS kids to even go there. ;-)</p>
<p>One would think that people have something better to do than bad-mouth a college that they have never attended before on an internet forum…</p>
<p>so most of these posts don’t really help me decide…haha
I’m visiting madison in over spring break so hopefully i will love or hate it so it will make the decision easier.</p>
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<p>To barrons: You love UW, it’s OK and you hate UMN, it is no matter at all. However, to consider and to talk about colleges, you must have a neutral view. Reading all your posts in this thread, I see that you are trying your best to belittle UMinn desperately, without any tangible and direct figures but only some abstract quotes and links from some un-related to colleges websites (yes, I’ve seen your links and found nothing but the word “university of minnesota”, there was not even a full sentence about UMinn). Should I and all the kids in this thread believe or just read your posts any more?</p>
<p>I’ll offer some comments. We are MN residents, D1 chose UW-Mad over UofM. She wound up in the business school (Grainger), had internships on the east coast and has begun her career there. I think her experience and friends of hers at UofM are this --if you want to start your career in the Twin Cities then UofM is a great choice. If you want to start a career in other parts of the country, UW-Mad is a better choice. </p>
<p>I’m a big believer that after you gain some experience your under graduate college choice diminishes in importance. However, I think UW-Mad has more national recognition and a far more active national alumni than UofM that may pay dividends in the future.</p>
<p>I felt the need to create an account on this website to call you a ****** bag, barrons. You are not helping students make informed decisions, all you are doing is giving them biased opinions belittling what Carlson has to offer. </p>
<p>I wouldn’t use funding as a problem in regards to UM, one because I’ve never heard that being part of anyone’s college decision-making, and two, the 40 million dollar addition (Hanson Hall) to the business school two years ago. Carlson is an already established school that has a lot to offer and will be climbing the ranks in years to come. </p>
<p>Students tend to stay in the Minneapolis region, which I must say is a great place to live, wonderful city, however, there are plenty of opportunities elsewhere. There are specific groups aimed at helping Carlson students reach to other states. The New York Carlson Alumni group, for example, helps student make contacts and land interviews in New York. </p>
<p>Another area to consider is internships. With 20 fortune 500 companies in the greater Twin Cities, executives are constantly recruiting students, they literally come to you. 87% job placement compared to the nation’s ~20% average. </p>
<p>I know I’ve neglected to mention anything about UW, but I’m sick of barrons’ bias, so here’s a little of my own.</p>
<p>Barrons I find your comments amusing.
“That’s because UM has to pay OOS kids to even go there. ;-)” (I like the winky face)
“Your football team stinks” (Are you 12?)</p>
<p>Per collegesearch.collegeboard.com:</p>
<p>UMTC Percent applicants admitted: 50%</p>
<p>UW-Madison Percent applicants admitted: 53%</p>
<p>For the 2009-2010 admission cycle, both were at 53%.</p>
<p>But UW gets the BETTER applicants with higher stats. I’d rather have that over just mass applications.</p>
<p>Actually the football comment has some meaning behind it. UW has much more school spirit and a joy about going there that Uminn just lacks. We had plenty of Uminn grads in the UW grad school and they were open about the fact that you just can’t compare the two in that area. The stats support that if you want to work outside Minn, UW has more opportunities in business and if you want to go to Minn towork you have plenty of opportunity to do so. </p>
<p>It’s not bias when it’s a fact. I don’t hate UMinn. I’ve been there several times and a good friend works at the UM Medical Foundation. Nationally it hardly ever even comes up while UW is always mentioned as one of the best college experiences in the US. Just a fact. </p>
<p>Just found this article about UW kicking UM in biotech–in the Minn newspaper.</p>
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<p>Being from NJ myself I never got into the Packers or hating the Gophers in sports. What I found outside Madison was very nice countryside for weekend driving, biking or motorcycle riding and the farms add to the charm. It looked very much like New England in SW Wisconsin and Door County.</p>
<p>I am in the same position as the original poster in trying to decide between the U of M and Madison. barrons, your desperate stabs at Minnesota are working against you. In fact they’re almost making me consider Minnesota more so that I don’t have to be surrounded by tools like you. I was very impressed with the U of M and truly believe that your accusations are false. How pitiful that you spend the time and effort to bash a school that you probably have never attended. Props to all of you who also responded to barrons’ outlandish posts. I very much enjoyed reading them.</p>
<p>Hey Barrons, really. What kind of tool gets on this site to slam other schools and HS kids by calling them losers etc… You my friend are the loser. Are you an adult or a child? Do you have a job? What exactly allows you to think you are some kind of expert to be slamming everything and everyone outside of UW Madison? Surely you don’t have anything to do with this fine school.</p>
<p>I’m an adult and a parent who is employed. Lets hear some stupid response back now “tool”. By the way, tool is a students name for you, I just think it fits nicely.</p>
<p>^^ ftw ^^</p>
<p>Yes, I have a nice six figure job in one of the best cities in the US, in part thanks to my UW degrees. I try to give the unvarnished truth If you don’t like it don’t use it. I have been to Uminn on vists. My old UW roommate went to Med School there so I have some comparisons. Somebody wanted to compare the two schools so I did. My claims are all well supported by surveys and experience. If you want a cookie don’t ask for opinions. I had to read really innane opinions in this thread about how Wisconsin is nothing but farms and nonsense–like Minn does not have tons of farms too. </p>
<p>If you want academic facts here’re a few:</p>
<p>UW National Academy Members 72
Uminn NAS Members 36</p>
<p>Major Faculty Awards (Fulbright, Guggenheim, NSF etc)
UW- 41/yr 5 yr avg.
UMinn 21 /yr </p>
<p>Annual Donations
UW-$341.8 Million #10 overall
Uminn-$272.4 Million #16</p>
<p>Research Funding </p>
<p>UW Madison $942,000,000</p>
<p>Uminn $584 Milion
Note-Uminn counts all campuses.</p>
<p>Total Endowments</p>
<p>UW- $4 Billion</p>
<p>Uminn $2 Billion</p>
<p>barrons, it’s not about the facts, it’s about the attitude. If you don’t like the inane opinions about Wisconsin, ignore them. With you bashing Minnesota won’t make Wisconsin any better, especially when they are mostly inane opinions too.</p>