<p>So “more selective” does not equal to “higher quality”?</p>
<p>Blah, UNC uses weighed GPA while Michigan used unweighed GPA.</p>
<p>Michigan’s acceptance rate will be around 40% this year.</p>
<p>wow I check back a few hours later and see all these comments, yikes. I’m pretty confused right now because when I visited the reps showing me around were telling me about all the great engineering opportunities and how UNC is more prestigious than Michigan engineering? Their website has engineering but UNC doesn’t have an engineering school…? On a side note I’m still worried about the USNews ranking, Michigan went from like 20 to 30 in just a few years? There must be reasons for it… maybe the slow economy in MI and the decline in school funding? I know UNC is basically private and has a massive endowment so I think they have a better financial future.</p>
<p>rfk…CB lists its acceptance rate as…</p>
<p>Percent applicants admitted: 51%</p>
<p>Do you really think it’s going to drop to 40% in one year? I’m not saying it won’t. Just wondering what you’re basing that on.</p>
<p>On a side note I’m still worried about the USNews ranking, Michigan went from like 20 to 30 in just a few years? There must be reasons for it… maybe the slow economy in MI and the decline in school funding?</p>
<p>Oh good heavens…the difference between 20 and 30 is nothing. Only about 40% of the ranking has to do with academics! </p>
<p>*I know UNC is basically private and has a massive endowment so I think they have a better financial future. * </p>
<p>UMich endowment 6.5 billion
UNC endowment 2 billion</p>
<p>Where are you getting your info???</p>
<p>Collegebound, Michigan dropped about 5 spots (from 23-25 in the mid 90s to 28-29 currently) in the last 15 years. The drop is a result of methodology, not quality. As a result of the UNSWR’s changing methodology, most public universities have either stayed static or dropped in the USNWR rankings.</p>
<p>Your posts are filled with innacuracies. You really need to inform yourself better. </p>
<p>Below are some facts that should set things straight for you:</p>
<p>Undergraduate Engineering ranking:
Michigan #7
UNC Not ranked among the top 75</p>
<p>Undergraduate Electrical Engineering ranking:
Michigan #6
UNC Not ranked</p>
<p>Undergraduate ranking in Chemical Engineering:
Michigan #11
UNC not ranked</p>
<p>Graduate ranking in Nuclear Engineering:
Michigan #1
UNC not ranked</p>
<p>Graduate ranking in Mathematics:
Michigan #8
UNC #30</p>
<p>Quality of student body:
Michigan and UNC have virtually identical freshman class profiles </p>
<p>Endowments:
Michigan: $6.5 billion ($160,000/student)
UNC: $1.9 billion ($65,000/student)</p>
<p>Peer Assessment score:
Michigan: 4.4
UNC: 4.2</p>
<p>In no way does UNC trump Michigan…or vice versa. Both are excellent universities. However, in your chosen fields of study, Michigan has the edge. And as mom2collegekids and I pointed out, financially, Michigan again has the edge.</p>
<p>mom2collegekids, rjk is correct. Michigan received 39,500 (a 25% inclrease from last year as a result of joining the common application) applicants and admitted 16,000 (41% admit rate). Those stats have been published by Michigan recently. Those sorts of surges in applicants (and drops in admit rates) are pretty standard when a university joins the common application. Chicago’s acceptance rate dropped from 40% to 15% in 5 years. Typically, the second year seen the largest number of applicant increase, so Michigan will probably receive 45,000+ applicants next year, while still admitting in 16,000 or so students.</p>
<p>[U-M</a> applications outpace all previous records, enrollment projected to be in line with customary numbers](<a href=“U-M applications outpace all previous records, enrollment projected to be in line with customary numbers | University of Michigan News”>U-M applications outpace all previous records, enrollment projected to be in line with customary numbers | University of Michigan News)</p>
<p>@mom2collegekids my guidance counselor along with my friends/relatives have been giving me most of my information, they feel that UNC is a better fit for me if I want to do engineering and math. Also my guidance counselor told me that Michigan’s drop in the rankings is pretty serious, she said it may fall out of the top 50 in a few years so that is very concerning to me… UNC has been very steady and most people seem to think that UNC has more prestige internationally, especially in Asia.</p>
<p>I’m sorry to be blunt/rude but your guidance counselor and friends/relatives don’t know what they are talking about.</p>
<p>^^^^^^You are a new poster here CollegeBound156 and your posts smell of trolling. Why do I get a feeling that you are a reincarnation of a previously banned poster here on CC?</p>
<p>*mom2collegekids, rjk is correct. Michigan received 39,500 (a 25% inclrease from last year as a result of joining the common application) applicants and admitted 16,000 (41% admit rate). *</p>
<p>Thanks! I really wasn’t saying that it wasn’t true…just wondering what the basis of the statement was. That’s a big achievement…congrats to UMich!</p>
<p>my guidance counselor along with my friends/relatives have been giving me most of my information, they feel that UNC is a better fit for me if I want to do engineering and math. Also my guidance counselor told me that Michigan’s drop in the rankings is pretty serious,</p>
<p>Your GC is wrong. She doesn’t know what rankings are based on. </p>
<p>Besides, in regards to engineering, do you really think that this country could be what it is today if all the good engineers were coming from about 20 schools? Heck, the state of Calif must have about 20 good engineering schools all in ONE STATE!!! </p>
<p>There are probably over 100 good engineering schools in this country…all producing very good engineers. </p>
<p>my friends/relatives</p>
<p>And, what is their source for information? guesses? assumptions? imaginations? Do they use Ouija boards?</p>
<p>she said it may fall out of the top 50 in a few years so that is very concerning to me.</p>
<p>lol…this is a high school GC right? Do you realize how little info most of these GCs have? You’re either exaggerating her words or she’s an idiot.</p>
<p>“wow I check back a few hours later and see all these comments, yikes. I’m pretty confused right now because when I visited the reps showing me around were telling me about all the great engineering opportunities and how UNC is more prestigious than Michigan engineering?”</p>
<p>This is just such a blatant lie that this thread needs to be closed. ENOUGH ALREADY!</p>
<p>I don’t doubt that it’s “possible” that while touring UNC that some may have touted their (few) engineering programs as being top (I doubt they mentioned UMich out of clear blue sky…but if the OP asked about UMich, perhaps the devoted UNC person was speaking in terms of its bio-med engineering. </p>
<p>It’s not unusual for a school to downplay (not mention) that it is lacking in certain majors. And, it’s not unusual for a listener to “hear” what they wanted to hear.</p>
<p>most people seem to think that UNC has more prestige internationally, especially in Asia.</p>
<p>Oh good heavens…I doubt that many people in Asia even know what UNC is. It’s really not a well-known school outside of the US. Heck, in Calif, many don’t even know it’s a great school.</p>
<p>UMich has a lot more “name” recognition.</p>
<p>@rjkofnovi I assure you I am no “■■■■■”. My family doesn’t come from a math/science background so maybe that’s why I have not been receiving good information. But it does have a psychological impact when everyone around you is telling you that UNC is a lot better than Michigan. Again, I was saying that Michigan may be the better social experience but people have beaten into my head that UNC is better. I’m just surprised that there’s many posters here telling me things to the contrary, which is why I am here in the first place, to see what everyone else thinks.</p>
<p>If you are a Maryland resident and you want to attend a big state university, why aren’t you talking about the University of Maryland at College Park? Is money not a factor at all? As an OOS student at Michigan, you’ll pay more than twice as much per year as you would to attend UMCP. UNC will cost you over $10K more per year. Yes, both Michigan and UNC have better reputations overall than UMCP, but Maryland has decent engineering, math and computer science programs, too. </p>
<p>If you have what it takes to get admitted to UNC (OOS), you might be competitive for (and do better with aid at) private schools such as Cornell, CMU, Rice, or Vanderbilt.</p>
<p>I have considered UMCP and I have visited several times, but honestly the campus alone just puts me off. I was actually there for a chemistry competition and the lab rooms I visited there were old, dirty, and had rusty equipment. I know it was just a select number of rooms I saw but it left me with a pretty sour taste. As you can imagine a very large % of my high school goes to CP for college and I have heard nothing but bad stories about the school.</p>
<p>Is money no object? What’s your budget? how much will your family pay?</p>
<p>Since you’ve been given such wrong info (things like UNC’s endowment being huge compared to UMich), you need to realize that your sources are flawed.</p>
<p>
Are you sure you didn’t go to Raleigh by mistake?</p>
<p>
Why don’t you let your figures do the walking. Get on the UNC website and find out for yourself what kind of undergraduate engineering degree they offer, and while you are doing that, find out if their curriculum is ABET accredited.</p>
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If you are for real … you should report your college counselor and your UNC tour guide, as it is clear that neither are qualified for his/her job.</p>
<p>I love UNC, but UMich should be your first choice if you get in to both.</p>